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Why do people oppose by hadji2014-05-20 06:38:36
  Based on people I have personally met by rkfig2014-05-20 07:18:56
    One man and one woman by Crawl2014-05-20 08:52:13
      Well, considering the LONG history of "marriage" by wwill 2014-05-20 11:03:02
INCLUDING by the way the judeo-christian history, of marriage being one or more men and one or more women in about any and every conceivable arrangement (line marriages, group marriages, polygamy, matrilineal arrangements of several sorts, etc.), the fiction that "marriage" is ONLY one man and ONLY one woman historically is shall we say specious and self-delusional at BEST.

For a simple and obvious example:

JUST HOW MANY WIVES did Solomon have?

How this "it's historically true" B. S. keeps coming back to the surface is absolutely incomprehensible to me. It's like a turd on the top of the sewer pond, I guess.

Marriage, historically, was whatever served to keep kids safe, conserve assets, and was amenable and sounded good to the people at that time and that place.

The Polynesian line matriarchies are STILL going strong; some of those marriages have a history going back literally HUNDREDS of years, and they are so happy with their lives they're nearly GOOFY. You've never seen such big smiles, happy kids all over the place, nobody hurting or alone.

I wish I could say the same for "traditional marriages" here.

From the CDC and the Census bureau, collated on

this web site

the present divorce rate across the board for "traditional marriages" is 4.2 out of 1000 marriages. For "Evangelical Christians" it is 5.1 of 1000. SUBSTANTIALLY higher. Catholic/Lutherans it was 3.9 / 1000. Atheists and agnostics? 3.1 / 1000.

The divorce rate for gay couples is really hard to track, but the people doing some work right now have gotten a little bit of data on it. Of 139 same-sex couple marriages in New Hampshire where the survey was conducted, only one divorce was known to have occurred.

1 of 139.

Statistics will increasingly become available, and of course that rate will go up, but I suspect it won't ever come close to the Bible-Belt rates. That's just an opinion and I have nothing other than my own acquaintances with long-term gay couples. (One of which had to go to another state to get married, after thirty years plus together, to the shame of the state of Illinois).

So, when the "Evangelical Christians" can claim a divorce rate LOWER than the gay crowd, then they can talk. Until then, they ought to just sit this one out with their mouths firmly closed, to avoid embarrassing themselves even more.

That's just my opinion, too.
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