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Politics Discussion	by mekkanik_mike	2014-03-27 00:30:01
About Hobby Lobby.	by ShadowSystems	2014-03-27 00:47:59
Everybody seems to be missing the real story here.	by RetiQlum2	2014-03-27 12:14:50
Except that's a facile argument.	by firehawk	2014-03-27 12:51:21
1) They're not saving any money. The plan costs them the same with or without the coverage they object to. They just want the insurance company to reject claims that they (Hobby Lobby) are already essentially paying for, and that the insurance company is already willing to pay for. 2) They're MAKING the argument religious by claiming it's against their religion to facilitate what they see as a sin. So no, I don't think anyone in the media is missing the point. I think the argument is exactly what it appears to be: can a corporation be enough of a person to have a religion, whose rights are being infringed more here - the owners or the employees, and which rights need to be protected? You're absolutely right about your core statement about taking responsibility for one's actions, but the specific contraceptives at issue here are the POST-mistake ones. Do you want to pay for a mistake for life? Saying "then don't make it in the first place" is both correct and incredibly wrong. We're all human; we DO make mistakes.
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Ask yourself this:	by RetiQlum2	2014-03-27 13:06:03
I'm not delving into philosphy here, Reti.	by firehawk	2014-03-27 15:07:53
On the question of cost...	by Ol_Gunner	2014-03-27 13:23:47
Wrong	by vdp	2014-03-27 13:53:29
Interesting info.	by Ol_Gunner	2014-03-27 14:11:47
nope	by basher20	2014-03-27 14:53:09
Wrong	by vdp	2014-03-27 15:54:04
On the question of mistakes...	by Ol_Gunner	2014-03-27 13:34:29
Yes there is.	by Peace_Man	2014-03-27 13:53:33
Sorry...	by Ol_Gunner	2014-03-27 14:07:39
Hmm - you have a point there.	by Peace_Man	2014-03-27 21:58:16
It seems to me like you just made a huge step in..	by RetiQlum2	2014-03-27 22:29:46
But the insurance company wants to pay.	by firehawk	2014-03-27 15:05:55

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