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/* Rant #4 by binkley 2013-02-21 03:49:15
OK, it's happened again. Some semi-literate bureaucracy has nominally joined the digital age, offering to allow me to fill in some vital info they need "on line", through the convenience of a fill-in pdf form.

Very nice! I download and open in reader, to find it's a no-save form - I'm supposed to fill it in, print it, and mail it in to them.

*sigh*

So I don't get to keep it for my own records (unless I scan it, which I most often do). I then have the pleasure of addressing an envelope, affixing postage, and making sure it gets out to the box.

Then after appropriate latency (YMMV) you all open it, type it into your systems (a known error free process) and then we are exactly where we would have been if you had simply made it a saveable (and readable) file and I had sent it directly back to you. Net difference - about 5 days, 50 cents, and a couple of errors (YMMV).

What is it with these no-save pdf forms? Why not use a format that can be edited and saved, such as .doc, or .odt, or even .txt?

Oh, you need a signature? How about I send you a scan of my signature? That's essentially what you accept when you get a fax. Oh, that's different - I understand, it's lawyer approved (they are the only ones still using faxes). If it's real authentication you want, then you're a long way from it with this silliness.

Oh, you're afraid someone will alter the body of the document? Simple solution: put all your favorite legalese boilerplate in a word doc in the form of a bitmap! The folks who create your website are real good at that kind of thing - page after page of nothing but chopped up bitmaps and flash. After doing that all you need is a statement saying any alteration of the document outside of the user fields renders it void. Heck, even employ a checksum to detect any changes (reference prior mention of proper authentication).

Gah, the stupid, it burns. And Adobe profits.

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*pad* (the sound of binkley headed off to fetch a single malt, neat)

End rant #4 */
[ Reply ]
  Hmm. by confused.brit2013-02-21 03:53:31
    Actually, you can print this PDF? by confused.brit2013-02-21 03:56:29
      That or CutePDF or PrimoPDF. by jpprater2013-02-21 06:32:59
        I use Bullzip and it works just fine for me. (n/t) by SaylorA2013-02-21 10:15:48
    Eh but that it were a business by binkley2013-02-21 03:56:38
      US federal Franken-gov't? by bigmal272013-02-21 04:05:08
        State government by binkley2013-02-21 06:32:30
  We have forms like this at work by maspiers2013-02-21 05:53:58
    Ouch by binkley2013-02-21 06:35:38
  Foxit lets you save these forms (I think) by vdp2013-02-21 06:03:37
    Also, Adobe Reader. by jpprater2013-02-21 06:35:43
      Exactly, my comment by binkley2013-02-21 06:37:07
      Actually, I think this has to do with how the form by vdp2013-02-21 08:02:39
        Correct by kapnkrunch2013-02-21 08:25:34
  Because the Union of Data Entry Clerks and Allied by pas512013-02-21 06:07:48
  Tax Return? (n/t) by vampire2013-02-21 07:02:00
  Try a US form 1099-misc by Ol_Gunner2013-02-21 08:38:51
    Learn somethin' new by kapnkrunch2013-02-21 09:08:54
      As I understand it by basher202013-02-21 11:24:03
  At least you can see to read it. =-)p ppplllbbb... by ShadowSystems2013-02-21 12:39:58
    SS you do put my pain in perspective.. by binkley2013-02-21 17:46:37
      Mmmmm... Perversion... =-)p by ShadowSystems2013-02-21 19:09:24
        WRT D&D manuals: by retiqlum22013-02-21 19:16:28
          And poor quality OCR at that... =-J by ShadowSystems2013-02-21 20:00:53
    Actually, newest version has accessability by Sonri2013-02-21 19:23:16

 

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