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Obama's 2012 budget by toysbfun2011-02-16 09:12:18
  Spoiler breaker: Maybe. by kelli2172011-02-16 11:12:14
    "claims" by jdelphiki2011-02-16 11:22:37
      Yep. I stand on the right-side of the aisle, by SaylorA2011-02-16 11:44:27
        We'll just have to wait and see this time. by DesertRat662011-02-16 11:49:43
          Don't get your hopes up. by toysbfun2011-02-16 12:00:17
            Yeah they did by DesertRat662011-02-16 12:05:24
              I fear they are busy stepping on mice, rather than by Concept2011-02-16 13:02:27
                Can Our Nation be Saved - Walter E. Wiliams by DesertRat662011-02-16 13:08:23
                  I object to the term "legalized theft." by toysbfun2011-02-16 13:44:53
                    Explanation of the term as heard from Dr. Williams by DesertRat662011-02-16 13:56:02
                      And two quotes: by DesertRat66 2011-02-16 14:10:03
The principles of economics don't not change any more than the working of gravity changes. Gravity is the same as when Newton wrote about it. So, economic theory is one thing, but economic systems are another. The most tragic economic change is that the world has come to accept the notion that one person has the right to live at the expense of another person, which I think is despicable. People all around the world – and in the U.S. – believe it's OK for the government to take the property of one citizen and give it to another. If a person did that identical thing privately, we would call it theft. But it's what people routinely ask the government to do.
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...my hero of all presidents, at least modern day presidents, is Grover Cleveland. He was the "Veto King." He vetoed more legislation than all presidents before him combined. His veto message to Congress often was that "this is not authorized by the United States Constitution." We don't hear presidents today vetoing acts of Congress because they are not authorized by the Constitution.

Few people appreciate how serious our Founding Fathers were about the Constitution. For example, James Madison is considered the Father of the Constitution. In 1794, when Congress appropriated $15,000 for the relief of French refugees who fled from insurrection in San Domingo to Baltimore and Philadelphia, James Madison stood on the floor of the House to object, saying "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents."

Now if you look at the federal budget, two-thirds to three-quarters of it is for benevolence, and it's been the same under all recent Presidents. Whether you are talking about foreign subsidies, bank bailouts, welfare programs, food stamps, Medicare or prescription drugs. There is no tooth fairy or Santa Claus giving the government the money; the only way the government can give one American citizen one dollar is to first take it from some another American. I think it's despicable. It's legalized theft.
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                        To take that to the extreme, by toysbfun2011-02-16 14:15:26
                          Low hanging fruit by DesertRat662011-02-16 14:19:08
                            I know that the Constitution authorizes it. by toysbfun2011-02-16 14:27:22
                              You really should follow the link by DesertRat662011-02-16 14:37:26
                                I missed where it said (link). by toysbfun2011-02-16 14:57:12
                                Thinking about it, this may be better suited for by toysbfun2011-02-16 15:24:20

 

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