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Monetary Commentary by Illiad 2009-08-24 13:35:43
Not sure where this is from originally, but I got it from a comment in the Globe and Mail:

Some monetary reformers argue that, given the parasitic nature of usury, it is vital that the indebted "victims" who must sink deeper into debt for the system to survive do so voluntarily and willingly and are not made aware of the consequences of purchasing consumables with debt money. Some politicians and others have highlighted the fact that mainstream media organizations appear to downplay or minimize the seriousness of deficit spending by government and debt-sourced spending of all kinds. The terms "debt" and "usury" are now virtually extinct, with "debt" being replaced by its antonym, "credit"; the cycle in "debt creation" is referred to euphemistically as the "credit cycle"; a shrinking of "debt money" as a "credit crunch" or "credit squeeze"; and the unsustainable growth in debt and the associated growth of derivatives that live off debt during the upward phase of the debt money cycle as "innovation" in financial markets.

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  The farther along we go, the more it looks like... by kelli2172009-08-24 13:43:04
    The thing about trading goods for worthless bits by hobbs2009-08-24 13:51:14
      Goldsmiths. by Illiad2009-08-24 13:53:37
        HEY! Jerry's a pretty good movie score composer! by adiplomat2009-08-24 14:46:33
      Like the power of life and death? by theymustbidiots2009-08-24 14:35:39
        Fiat money and barter are not the only options (n/t) by hobbs2009-08-24 15:08:54
          No? by theymustbidiots2009-08-24 15:18:59
            By having a medium of exchange by hobbs2009-08-24 15:49:46
              The problem: by theymustbidiots2009-08-24 19:07:22
                You seem to think that the word "fiat" by hobbs2009-08-24 19:38:24
                  Which is to say, you're actually by hobbs2009-08-24 19:42:47
                    By fiat: by theymustbidiots2009-08-24 20:02:58
    Why? by theymustbidiots2009-08-24 14:32:11
      I didn't say it has to be gold. (n/t) by kelli2172009-08-24 14:46:35
        Well, sure. by theymustbidiots2009-08-24 14:48:11
          Gold-pressed latinum, for all I know. by kelli2172009-08-24 14:54:15
            We shoved the situation down everyone's throats by esbita2009-08-24 15:05:43
            Not very well, that's why it was abandoned. by theymustbidiots2009-08-24 15:17:22
  Hmmm... So, by extension,... by bitflipper2009-08-24 13:45:58
    Thank gawd I have almost everything except by vampire2009-08-24 14:23:10
  Usury is not in itself parasitic. You get what you by adiplomat2009-08-24 13:57:04
    Usury is not mere debt by esbita2009-08-24 14:30:57
      Usury is simply the lending of money at interest. by adiplomat2009-08-24 14:45:11
        That was unclear. "All lending was usurious" by adiplomat2009-08-24 14:59:35
          She qualified it: by esbita2009-08-24 15:04:23
            Or business supplies, etc. etc... by adiplomat2009-08-24 15:22:04
              Obviously... by esbita2009-08-24 16:05:54
    Critical quote there: by hobbs2009-08-24 15:14:23
      Re: payroll borrowing. by theymustbidiots2009-08-24 15:24:40
        I was going to throw an example in there by hobbs2009-08-24 15:57:04
  I was getting quite PO'd a couple of months back by Jeff_UK2009-08-24 15:27:48

 

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