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Philosophy Corner: Ontology by MatthewDBA2009-08-24 06:51:21
  A self-evidential event of the subjective ego by bitflipper2009-08-24 07:26:49
    Would be Descartes-esque. by krikkert2009-08-24 07:33:06
      Actually, I was thinking more of conditions that by bitflipper2009-08-24 07:38:07
        As with anything like this, we need a framework... by jdelphiki2009-08-24 08:02:09
          How about "adaptive behavior"? by bitflipper2009-08-24 08:30:22
            That's an interesting approach. by MatthewDBA2009-08-24 08:34:59
              Perhaps it does by bitflipper2009-08-24 09:26:36
                How would you be able to tell by MatthewDBA2009-08-24 09:33:52
                  No, an external test is sufficient by bitflipper2009-08-24 09:47:07
                    I'm not as sure as you seem to be by MatthewDBA2009-08-24 09:59:26
                      Most programs are written deliberately to assist by bitflipper2009-08-24 10:47:04
                        You can determine whether another person by MatthewDBA2009-08-24 10:51:07
                          How is it absent? by bitflipper2009-08-24 11:16:26
                            I'm wondering if things like by MatthewDBA2009-08-24 11:28:16
                              But, again, would a conversation with a strong AI by bitflipper 2009-08-24 11:52:24
be appreciably different from a conversation on this forum? Heck, if the thing can pun, the greatest majority of us would swear up and down it's a flesh-n-blood UFie! And, if we were to find out it is a machine-based intelligence, I daresay it would find itself accepted all the more, here, for its unique viewpoint and differences.

And let us consider the case of humans accepting other humans as equals: our species has a long history of prejudice and inequity against creatures more like ourselves than different, and vastly more like ourselves than our pets whom we accept as "part of the family." We have, historically, denied other humans' intelligence and dignity based on such superficial differences as skin tone, language, or religion, and those creatures whom we've denied were creatures with whom we could interbreed. Yet, at the same time, we have long ascribed intelligence to cats, dogs, horses, etc.--creatures quite unlike ourselves, really. It seems to me that seriously weakens the requirement that we see a similarity in physical form with an intelligent being before we are willing to accept it as intelligent.

We are more willing to accept as intelligent that which responds to our words, and behaves as if it has intelligence. The greater the degree of self-awareness exhibited, and the more easily understood it is for us (the more it responds to our own language, and even dialect), the more willing we are to ascribe intelligence to it.
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                                One difference between by MatthewDBA2009-08-24 12:28:51
                                Yes, but, by market statistics, most people by bitflipper2009-08-24 13:11:20

 

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