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Philosophy Corner: Ontology by MatthewDBA2009-08-24 06:51:21
  A self-evidential event of the subjective ego by bitflipper2009-08-24 07:26:49
    Would be Descartes-esque. by krikkert2009-08-24 07:33:06
      Actually, I was thinking more of conditions that by bitflipper2009-08-24 07:38:07
        As with anything like this, we need a framework... by jdelphiki2009-08-24 08:02:09
          How about "adaptive behavior"? by bitflipper2009-08-24 08:30:22
            That's an interesting approach. by MatthewDBA2009-08-24 08:34:59
              Perhaps it does by bitflipper2009-08-24 09:26:36
                How would you be able to tell by MatthewDBA2009-08-24 09:33:52
                  No, an external test is sufficient by bitflipper2009-08-24 09:47:07
                    I'm not as sure as you seem to be by MatthewDBA2009-08-24 09:59:26
                      Most programs are written deliberately to assist by bitflipper 2009-08-24 10:47:04
the user in learning those parameters, AIs and otherwise; an AI that just spouts random Zen koans isn't going to impress anyone much. (Unless it truly has attained Zen, in which case it might impress a Zen Master quite a lot, but then what do the rest of us who are not so spiritually advanced make of the Master's assessment of the program: "Thirty lines of flowers"?)

It's just like with people: how do you determine whether another person is a thinking being like yourself? The same tests can apply to an AI. An AI that fails--let us suppose it is even a true, strong AI that is self-aware, fully cognizant, and able to resolve doubt--would be like a catatonic person; how can you be certain that a catatonic patient is thinking of anything?
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                        You can determine whether another person by MatthewDBA2009-08-24 10:51:07
                          How is it absent? by bitflipper2009-08-24 11:16:26
                            I'm wondering if things like by MatthewDBA2009-08-24 11:28:16
                              But, again, would a conversation with a strong AI by bitflipper2009-08-24 11:52:24
                                One difference between by MatthewDBA2009-08-24 12:28:51
                                Yes, but, by market statistics, most people by bitflipper2009-08-24 13:11:20

 

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