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Philosophy Corner: Ontology | by MatthewDBA | 2009-08-24 06:51:21 |
| A self-evidential event of the subjective ego |
by bitflipper |
2009-08-24 07:26:49 |
interacting with the objective world or introspecting itself?
Dante's inner homonculus clearing its throat?
Dang! This one's gonna be rough. 'Specially on a Monday morning.
All right, I start with this: thoughts are self-evident; we know when we are thinking. But, hmmm... can we know when we are not thinking? probably not. So I'll take it a step further: thoughts are the self-evident, necessary fundament to awareness of any sort.
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Would be Descartes-esque. | by krikkert | 2009-08-24 07:33:06 |
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Actually, I was thinking more of conditions that | by bitflipper | 2009-08-24 07:38:07 |
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As with anything like this, we need a framework... | by jdelphiki | 2009-08-24 08:02:09 |
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Exactly. | by MatthewDBA | 2009-08-24 08:04:09 |
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How about "adaptive behavior"? | by bitflipper | 2009-08-24 08:30:22 |
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That's an interesting approach. | by MatthewDBA | 2009-08-24 08:34:59 |
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Perhaps it does | by bitflipper | 2009-08-24 09:26:36 |
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How would you be able to tell | by MatthewDBA | 2009-08-24 09:33:52 |
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No, an external test is sufficient | by bitflipper | 2009-08-24 09:47:07 |
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I'm not as sure as you seem to be | by MatthewDBA | 2009-08-24 09:59:26 |
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Most programs are written deliberately to assist | by bitflipper | 2009-08-24 10:47:04 |
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You can determine whether another person | by MatthewDBA | 2009-08-24 10:51:07 |
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How is it absent? | by bitflipper | 2009-08-24 11:16:26 |
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I'm wondering if things like | by MatthewDBA | 2009-08-24 11:28:16 |
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But, again, would a conversation with a strong AI | by bitflipper | 2009-08-24 11:52:24 |
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One difference between | by MatthewDBA | 2009-08-24 12:28:51 |
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Yes, but, by market statistics, most people | by bitflipper | 2009-08-24 13:11:20 |
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Would that imply that (for example) | by MatthewDBA | 2009-08-24 07:37:08 |
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3: Evidenced by "Hold my beer and watch this." (n/t) | by chanceslost | 2009-08-24 07:39:17 |
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:-D (n/t) | by MatthewDBA | 2009-08-24 07:43:35 |
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My take would be: | by bitflipper | 2009-08-24 07:51:37 |
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That's not quite circular. | by MatthewDBA | 2009-08-24 08:02:26 |
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Sure; it tells us that thought is necessary | by bitflipper | 2009-08-24 08:53:12 |
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"The presence of thought in another creature | by MatthewDBA | 2009-08-24 09:03:30 |
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I doubt it | by bitflipper | 2009-08-24 09:33:31 |
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That appears to be directly contradictory | by MatthewDBA | 2009-08-24 09:35:26 |
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Yes, I mis-stated it, earlier | by bitflipper | 2009-08-24 09:50:33 |
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I would give the wasp the benefit of doubt. | by tallastro | 2009-08-24 09:06:59 |