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Not quite the UF Philosophy Corner | by MatthewDBA | 2009-05-12 09:02:00 |
| I definitely believe justice, modesty and equity |
by aprylmae |
2009-05-12 11:36:23 |
are most certainly NOT laws of nature. Mercy, maybe, to some degree.
Modesty in particular, IMO, is very against nature. Pride is more natural. Because one of the most natural instincts is trying to mate. And in order to get a mate, animals (people included) often need to show the potential mate why they are better than the competition. So they show off and strut thier stuff. "Hey look, I have way better tail plummage than that other bird, look at me, look at me!" Modesty is a man-made ideal, that I believe came about when people in positions of power (or a position to influence those who were) started to feel physically inadequate. "His is bigger than mine, but if I make him keep it covered then noone will know."
Revenge is more natural than justice as well. In nature Animal A does a bad thing to Animal B. Does animal B only demand that Animal A fix it or has something equally bad done to them? No, generally, if possible, they will get Animal A back worse, or if they can't, they move on to weaker Animal C and do a bad thing.
Equity? Well, look at pretty much any group of animals. Are the males and femals treated the same? Are the smaller weaker ones treated the same as the larger, stronger ones? Equity doesn't exist in nature. |
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Perhaps we could start by limiting this | by MatthewDBA | 2009-05-12 11:38:01 |
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the equality bit still fails horribly. | by subbywan | 2009-05-12 11:41:29 |
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All people are not created identical | by MatthewDBA | 2009-05-12 11:56:36 |
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equal in what sense? (n/t) | by subbywan | 2009-05-12 12:02:26 |
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In the sense that | by MatthewDBA | 2009-05-12 12:08:07 |
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Owed by whom? (n/t) | by subbywan | 2009-05-12 12:17:01 |
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Well, by other humans, of course | by MatthewDBA | 2009-05-12 12:20:09 |
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wouldn't that, in and of itself, indicate that | by subbywan | 2009-05-12 12:34:06 |
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Not necessarily | by MatthewDBA | 2009-05-12 12:47:09 |
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Is there any evidence it does? | by subbywan | 2009-05-12 12:48:32 |
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I'm not sure what might constitute | by MatthewDBA | 2009-05-12 13:04:05 |
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We haven't determined those things are the same. | by subbywan | 2009-05-12 13:09:35 |
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I don't know that *every single* culture | by MatthewDBA | 2009-05-12 13:17:17 |
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If you do make it back, I disagree :P | by subbywan | 2009-05-12 13:22:56 |
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I wasn't talking about a common root | by MatthewDBA | 2009-05-12 16:04:59 |
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we've already established that doesn't exist thoug (n/t) | by subbywan | 2009-05-12 17:22:24 |
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then that would rule me out | by jaqie | 2009-05-12 11:42:48 |
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I don't think so | by aprylmae | 2009-05-12 11:43:56 |
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But why did the behaviors | by MatthewDBA | 2009-05-12 11:55:59 |
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For some, it was. For others, thee were different | by subbywan | 2009-05-12 12:07:03 |
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agreed | by aprylmae | 2009-05-12 12:26:01 |
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Ive always hated clothing | by jaqie | 2009-05-12 12:53:45 |
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sure they do | by aprylmae | 2009-05-12 12:15:15 |
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I don't know that they all would share | by MatthewDBA | 2009-05-12 12:25:28 |
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Tribal cohesion. | by vetitice | 2009-05-12 13:45:59 |
