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Not quite the UF Philosophy Corner by MatthewDBA2009-05-12 09:02:00
  I see no law of nature there. by jaqie2009-05-12 09:04:36
    Are they? by MatthewDBA2009-05-12 09:16:10
      nature has no laws. by jaqie2009-05-12 10:02:36
        And where did those ideas come from? by MatthewDBA2009-05-12 10:10:07
          IBM compatible PC code works by jaqie2009-05-12 10:16:04
            They make "local" laws. by vetitice 2009-05-12 10:48:41
With these rules, in this small domain, this happens.

That's what human "laws of nature" are.

Newtons laws are great in the local domain to play pool or get a spaceship to Neptune, but fall over in other contexts. Maybe even Einstein got it wrong, for certain domains. These ones are easy, since the laws are so simple and so easy to test.

When you're looking at "laws of nature" that have emerged as complicity between the rules driving a million different items within their own contexts, then there's very little chance we'll ever work out what the real "Law of Nature" is just for that context.

Even if we did, change the context by a little bit, nudge the starting conditions and you get a different emergent behaviour.

This doesn't mean "There ain't no law". It means "the law's too big for me to understand."

Beyond a certain point it's PFM, no matter how logical it is to the universe.
[ Reply ]
              retiqlum said it better than I could by jaqie2009-05-12 10:59:40
                I dont see a contradiction with what I posted. by vetitice2009-05-12 11:12:00
                  I think the root of our disagreement by jaqie2009-05-12 11:15:42
                    That happens to me occasionally by MatthewDBA2009-05-12 11:18:53
                      *snrk* by jaqie2009-05-12 11:22:40
                    No worries, ma'am by vetitice2009-05-12 11:27:31

 

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