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Serious question for those against gay marriage. by Snate2009-04-15 12:37:15
  I think that most of these people by MatthewDBA2009-04-15 12:53:06
    I'm not so sure on A and I hope you're wrong on C by Snate2009-04-15 12:59:50
      Why would they abstain from voting by MatthewDBA2009-04-15 13:02:24
        because it doesn't affect them? (n/t) by vdp2009-04-15 13:04:49
          Except that in their belief, by MatthewDBA2009-04-15 13:10:26
            What about the multitudes who don't take Jesus as by voxwoman2009-04-15 13:39:58
              Why stop at two? (n/t) by toysbfun2009-04-15 13:43:40
                "I prefer three, but it's hard enough finding one" by voxwoman2009-04-15 13:48:54
                  I see the issue as by toysbfun2009-04-15 14:05:50
                    But it hasn't gone unchanged for centuries. by Arachnid2009-04-15 15:10:48
                      The number of people and what sex each person by toysbfun2009-04-15 15:15:34
                        "This is how we've always done it" by Arachnid2009-04-15 15:19:56
                          Any social custom started for a reason. by toysbfun2009-04-15 15:23:50
                            And that's still not a good argument. by Arachnid2009-04-15 15:29:49
                              I'm not saying I know the reason, merely that it by toysbfun2009-04-15 15:38:38
                                Saying that it "must exist" is a spurious by voxwoman2009-04-15 15:41:29
                                Everything has a reason behind it. by toysbfun2009-04-15 15:50:13
                                If everyone took your precautionary principle to by Arachnid2009-04-15 15:59:12
                                Not necessarily. Change can be good. by toysbfun 2009-04-15 16:11:07
But if the consequences of change are not thought out, bad things can happen. Neither slavery nor denying women suffrage make no sense if thought about logically. The reasons for them just don't hold up.

In Lincoln's day, they had actual debates on slavery, not sound bites. They attacked each other's arguments instead of repeating themselves. That doesn't happen much these days in the mainstream. Same sex marriage is becoming a house of cards and policymakers need to apply reason in one direction or the other before it falls down. Reason, by the way, seems to be in favor of same sex marriage. They're just not digging down deep enough to remove the false premises the arguments against are based on.
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