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Serious question for those against gay marriage. by Snate2009-04-15 12:37:15
  I think that most of these people by MatthewDBA2009-04-15 12:53:06
    I'm not so sure on A and I hope you're wrong on C by Snate2009-04-15 12:59:50
      Why would they abstain from voting by MatthewDBA2009-04-15 13:02:24
        because it doesn't affect them? (n/t) by vdp2009-04-15 13:04:49
          Except that in their belief, by MatthewDBA2009-04-15 13:10:26
            What about the multitudes who don't take Jesus as by voxwoman2009-04-15 13:39:58
              Why stop at two? (n/t) by toysbfun2009-04-15 13:43:40
                "I prefer three, but it's hard enough finding one" by voxwoman2009-04-15 13:48:54
                  I see the issue as by toysbfun2009-04-15 14:05:50
                    But it hasn't gone unchanged for centuries. by Arachnid2009-04-15 15:10:48
                      The number of people and what sex each person by toysbfun2009-04-15 15:15:34
                        "This is how we've always done it" by Arachnid2009-04-15 15:19:56
                          Any social custom started for a reason. by toysbfun2009-04-15 15:23:50
                            And that's still not a good argument. by Arachnid2009-04-15 15:29:49
                              I'm not saying I know the reason, merely that it by toysbfun2009-04-15 15:38:38
                                Saying that it "must exist" is a spurious by voxwoman2009-04-15 15:41:29
                                Everything has a reason behind it. by toysbfun2009-04-15 15:50:13
                                If everyone took your precautionary principle to by Arachnid 2009-04-15 15:59:12
heart, we would still have slavery, and women wouldn't have the vote. You're essentially trying to claim that our predecessors new better than us, when there's no reason to suppose that - in fact, quite the reverse. If this is to be settled on any rational basis, it has to be based on available facts, not assertions that there's some really good argument our ancestors knew for the status quo, but nobody can quite think what it was.
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                                an anecdote from a relative by voxwoman2009-04-15 16:08:52
                                Exactly. If the pan had been passed down with the by toysbfun2009-04-15 16:12:41
                                the problem is the *reasons* rarely get passed on. (n/t) by morenna2009-04-15 17:01:20
                                Not necessarily. Change can be good. by toysbfun2009-04-15 16:11:07

 

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