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U.S. Elections Thread (n/t) by merlin2008-10-21 09:37:35
  Is it an "income tax cut" or a "payroll tax cut"? by merlin2008-10-21 09:38:24
    It makes a fair bit of sense. by Peace_man2008-10-21 10:42:40
      Except it's *not* actually payroll tax relief. by esbita2008-10-21 11:48:18
        Hmm - that's an interesting setup. by Peace_man2008-10-21 13:08:50
          Umm, I wrote my Congresscritter *against* it. by esbita 2008-10-21 14:56:33
Many others called/wrote their Congresscritters, too. I was also *against* so many of the aggressive "community lending" requirements the governments slapped on the banks. Banking is very competitive- if a loan can be remotely profitable, the banks would find a way. Hell, I qualify for those "low income mortgage programs" (albeit barely) and I still rent- because I knew I wasn't in a very solid position to buy!

In short, I along with many other Conservatives wanted the pinstripe f4ers to go to federal prison.

Now if EVERYBODY'S payroll taxes at subsistence level got waived, that would be a bit more "fair." But from what I can tell, Obama's proposal just extends the Earned Income Tax Credit concept.

The two kinds of taxes are meant for different things. Social Security taxes are *really* just social insurance payments, not taxes. Everyone pays in, everyone gets to take out. That's fair. Again, if the poor end up not paying actual federal income taxes, great- but don't turn around and just "refund" federal tax money they didn't actually pay in.

The "problem" with Obama's redistributive nonsense stands- you can't logically refund to people what they never paid in.
[ Reply ]
            Your last sentence is the crux of the problem. by merlin2008-10-21 15:09:29
            As DesiredUserName said: by Peace_man2008-10-21 15:19:23
              Technically, I asked, I didn't say. by DesiredUsername2008-10-21 15:30:00
              Alternatives? We already have them. by esbita2008-10-21 20:16:43

 

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