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U.S. Elections Thread (n/t) by merlin2008-10-21 09:37:35
  Is it an "income tax cut" or a "payroll tax cut"? by merlin2008-10-21 09:38:24
    *blink blink* wow, that's rather stupid by Freakazoid2008-10-21 09:56:14
      If you actually read the editorial... by esbita2008-10-21 09:59:06
        That's why he wants to rack up the taxes by merlin2008-10-21 10:01:45
          More to the point... by jdelphiki2008-10-21 10:48:29
            One thing I don't quite understand. by Peace_man2008-10-21 11:14:27
              Slight clarification... by jdelphiki2008-10-21 12:41:31
                Earn more than what? by Peace_man2008-10-21 13:27:44
                  The point is this gives the worker MORE THAN by merlin2008-10-21 13:32:09
                    Is it fair to let people starve to death by Peace_man 2008-10-21 13:44:40
when they get too old to work? That is the real question.

And it is the question that is answered 'no' by Social Security.

The theory that social security is paid for by contributions from everyone during their working days is very comforting, and allows everyone to buy into the plan that taxes more money from them. But this is theory only. The reality is that not everyone makes enough during their working days to support themselves - to have a roof over their heads and be able to buy food, let alone clothing.

What is proposed here is not something that will pay anybody more than their wages, while they are working. It is something that will ensure that nobody starves to death once they are no longer able to work. No matter how much they earned when they worked.

If you prefer to see old people on the street begging for money when they can no longer work, that is certainly within your rights. I don't share that sentiment.
[ Reply ]
                      I would kindly thank you to not put words in by merlin2008-10-21 13:59:32
                        When you propose alternatives, I will by Peace_man2008-10-21 14:04:08
                          Real simple, leave it alone by merlin2008-10-21 14:13:45
                            If that is your alternative plan, can you show me by Peace_man2008-10-21 14:23:39
                              Can you show me how Obama's plan by merlin2008-10-21 15:06:48
                                Back on topic by DesiredUsername2008-10-21 15:23:20
                                It seems that he will make this tax progressive. by Peace_man2008-10-21 15:29:02

 

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