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UF Philosophy Corner - Ethics | by MatthewDBA | 2008-10-21 08:21:28 |
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In order: | by werehatrack | 2008-10-21 08:35:19 |
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I like all but the first. | by tallastro | 2008-10-21 08:48:31 |
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Could there ever be a right | by MatthewDBA | 2008-10-21 08:53:44 |
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Yes, I think so. | by tallastro | 2008-10-21 09:02:17 |
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I'm not clear on one thing. | by MatthewDBA | 2008-10-21 09:07:59 |
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I believe werehatrack's claim is that | by bitflipper | 2008-10-21 09:34:39 |
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Disagree. | by werehatrack | 2008-10-21 09:55:55 |
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Sure it is | by bitflipper | 2008-10-21 10:11:18 |
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Is that a right though, or merely a universal | by subbywan | 2008-10-21 10:13:34 |
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What is the difference between | by bitflipper | 2008-10-21 10:27:05 |
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No, because "violation" is subjective. | by subbywan | 2008-10-21 10:52:18 |
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Sometimes, though, you don't | by bitflipper | 2008-10-21 10:56:20 |
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I wanted to get away from the human examples | by subbywan | 2008-10-21 10:59:44 |
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O-kay, but it still begs the question | by bitflipper | 2008-10-21 11:20:43 |
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There isn't an appeal | by subbywan | 2008-10-21 11:25:20 |
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Then what is your right to life? | by bitflipper | 2008-10-21 11:41:40 |
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I don't have a right to life. | by subbywan | 2008-10-21 11:47:02 |
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That would mean, then | by bitflipper | 2008-10-21 11:56:40 |
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I will defend myself too, up to and including | by subbywan | 2008-10-21 12:34:25 |
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But you would do so in the absence of society, too | by bitflipper | 2008-10-21 12:58:17 |
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by subbywan |
2008-10-21 13:21:26 |
That same instinct would make me choose, for example, saving my bother over saving a stranger, every time. For me, they do NOT have equal rights to life. The stranger may have a right to life, but my brother, in my opinion, has a stronger claim (because of his relationship to me). Conversely, I'd expect a relative of the stranger to place a higher value on the stranger than on my brother.
That I place a higher value, in general, on myself than one anyone else only means I'm selfish.
The US claims its citizens have a right to life, yet poor people end up getting the death sentence more often than rich, and black people get it more often than white.
By its very nature, America is an unequitable society, regardless of what it claims. By your own definition then, this is a societal privilege, and not a right.
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US citizens *do* have a right to life | by MatthewDBA | 2008-10-21 13:34:17 |
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If you can take it away, it's not a right | by subbywan | 2008-10-21 13:39:51 |
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And that's where I disagree | by MatthewDBA | 2008-10-21 13:41:47 |
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I thought you prefaced the need for a soul | by subbywan | 2008-10-21 13:44:49 |
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Maybe. | by MatthewDBA | 2008-10-21 13:49:15 |
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fair dinkum. | by subbywan | 2008-10-21 13:51:06 |
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It is not that your brother has a greater right | by bitflipper | 2008-10-21 13:50:01 |
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Um, the laws are *not* written to apply evenly. | by subbywan | 2008-10-21 13:53:42 |
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Actually, they *do* have the right to marry, | by bitflipper | 2008-10-21 14:07:54 |
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Because the state is involved there. | by subbywan | 2008-10-21 14:39:47 |