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U.S. Elections Thread (n/t) by merlin2008-10-21 09:37:35
  Is it an "income tax cut" or a "payroll tax cut"? by merlin 2008-10-21 09:38:24
And, if it is a payroll tax cut, how's it going to be funded without negatively impacting Social Security?

Today's WSJ Editorial
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    Wow, buy the election, then worry about where the by NDwight2008-10-21 09:46:40
      No worries. :-) by DesiredUsername2008-10-21 10:46:56
        Despite the obvious bias of that op-ed by Peace_man2008-10-21 11:29:03
          For certain definitions of support (n/t) by rfrovarp2008-10-21 11:47:38
          Ahh, McCain took the public money and is limited by rfrovarp2008-10-21 11:55:51
            Which Obama promised to do too, and didn't (n/t) by DesertRat662008-10-21 12:10:46
            McCain is limited in total budget? by Peace_man2008-10-21 12:17:41
              I'm not entirely sure by rfrovarp2008-10-21 12:23:45
    *blink blink* wow, that's rather stupid by Freakazoid2008-10-21 09:56:14
      If you actually read the editorial... by esbita2008-10-21 09:59:06
        That's why he wants to rack up the taxes by merlin2008-10-21 10:01:45
          Yeah, but it doesn't FEEL like welfare... by retiqlum22008-10-21 10:40:36
            But that would mean that *both* candidates by Classic_Jon2008-10-21 10:42:59
              Sorry, my fault. by retiqlum22008-10-21 10:56:58
                People...actually thinking...what will the Sheeple by Classic_Jon2008-10-21 11:00:27
          More to the point... by jdelphiki2008-10-21 10:48:29
            One thing I don't quite understand. by Peace_man2008-10-21 11:14:27
              Slight clarification... by jdelphiki2008-10-21 12:41:31
                Earn more than what? by Peace_man2008-10-21 13:27:44
                  The point is this gives the worker MORE THAN by merlin2008-10-21 13:32:09
                    Is it fair to let people starve to death by Peace_man2008-10-21 13:44:40
                      I would kindly thank you to not put words in by merlin2008-10-21 13:59:32
                        When you propose alternatives, I will by Peace_man2008-10-21 14:04:08
                          Real simple, leave it alone by merlin2008-10-21 14:13:45
                            If that is your alternative plan, can you show me by Peace_man2008-10-21 14:23:39
                              Can you show me how Obama's plan by merlin2008-10-21 15:06:48
                                Back on topic by DesiredUsername2008-10-21 15:23:20
                                It seems that he will make this tax progressive. by Peace_man2008-10-21 15:29:02
                    Question: by DesiredUsername2008-10-21 13:53:05
                      It all depends on which of the various by merlin2008-10-21 13:55:05
                        But I don't think you can 'factor that in'. by DesiredUsername2008-10-21 14:32:43
                          Oh, I'll agree that I have overall issues with SS by merlin2008-10-21 15:07:35
          Yup. Eliminating *income* taxes on poor, okay. by esbita2008-10-21 10:56:10
            Yeah, I don't hold with negative tax rates. by jmaxsohmer2008-10-21 11:19:50
        I did read the article by Freakazoid2008-10-21 10:07:11
          Then you must have missed the part where by merlin2008-10-21 10:14:33
            And if net revenue is negative? by Stibbons2008-10-21 10:18:04
              Then we just "borrow" from the trust fund, by chanceslost2008-10-21 10:29:20
                ummm... whose trust fund? not mine! by Classic_Jon2008-10-21 10:32:20
                  There is no trust fund, it just part of the by NDwight2008-10-21 10:38:47
                    ahhh so the deficit gets the bill...ok long as it by Classic_Jon2008-10-21 10:40:46
                    Sure it's a trust fund by rfrovarp2008-10-21 10:58:44
    Wow...just wow. I know it is an editorial by Classic_Jon2008-10-21 10:21:37
      Additionally, anyone have anything on Mccain by Classic_Jon2008-10-21 10:31:15
      Old article by rfrovarp2008-10-21 10:53:26
        Why doesn't he have a search feature? by rfrovarp2008-10-21 11:08:20
    Interesting quote: by retiqlum22008-10-21 10:35:10
      Nice strawman. by AndyA2008-10-21 10:44:41
        "We're not going to solve.....unless we understand by retiqlum22008-10-21 10:47:14
          I don't see that when the quote is in context by AndyA2008-10-21 11:10:03
    It makes a fair bit of sense. by Peace_man2008-10-21 10:42:40
      Your bias and lack of knowledge about the by Classic_Jon2008-10-21 10:43:54
        You'll have to do better than that. by Peace_man2008-10-21 11:07:18
          And yours did....? (n/t) by Classic_Jon2008-10-21 11:08:07
            Well, by DesiredUsername2008-10-21 11:28:17
          Why? It falls on deaf ears. (n/t) by esbita2008-10-21 11:08:15
      But he's being disingenuous in his discussions by merlin2008-10-21 10:43:58
      Except it's *not* actually payroll tax relief. by esbita2008-10-21 11:48:18
        Well said. A+ (n/t) by Lab Rat2008-10-21 12:07:33
        Hmm - that's an interesting setup. by Peace_man2008-10-21 13:08:50
          "Borrowing" from Social Security Fund by DesiredUsername2008-10-21 13:13:43
            Bonds or something by rfrovarp2008-10-21 13:16:03
              Dang.. I though it was some ** up thing like that by DesiredUsername2008-10-21 13:18:56
                *offers the vodka bottle* by esbita2008-10-21 14:58:00
          Republicans may be in agreement by altordwm2008-10-21 13:18:43
            Socialist or not may depend on who is by Peace_man2008-10-21 13:22:02
            About 70% were against by DesertRat662008-10-21 13:42:42
              Nah, it will happen (has been happening) by altordwm2008-10-21 13:51:41
                Welcome to the other side. by Peace_man2008-10-21 13:59:43
                Don't underestimate the power of the few by DesertRat662008-10-21 14:18:41
          Umm, I wrote my Congresscritter *against* it. by esbita2008-10-21 14:56:33
            Your last sentence is the crux of the problem. by merlin2008-10-21 15:09:29
            As DesiredUserName said: by Peace_man2008-10-21 15:19:23
              Technically, I asked, I didn't say. by DesiredUsername2008-10-21 15:30:00
              Alternatives? We already have them. by esbita2008-10-21 20:16:43
    Democrats for a better economy by DesiredUsername2008-10-21 11:45:39
      But we see this: by rfrovarp2008-10-21 12:32:45
        I like the opening quote. by DesiredUsername2008-10-21 12:49:13
          Me too. (n/t) by rfrovarp2008-10-21 13:04:07

 

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