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A serious comment on "animal rights" by run.dll 2008-10-20 16:21:54
prompted by the manner in which the "Bear Attack" thread below developed.

Perhaps this would be a good topic for the philosophy thread: Do animals have rights?

I was taught as a boy that "rights" are just one side of a coin, the other side of which is labelled "responsibilities". If you accept this (and frankly, I think it can be fairly said that the flip side is now considered optional by many), then in what way can an animal live up to its "responsibilities" (and indeed, what would these responsibilities be?)

As for myself, I don't think animals have rights - I think _we_ have responsibilities. _We_ have an obligation to treat animals in an ethical manner, which is not at all the same as saying that animals have rights, although the fuzzy logic of the cute-and-cuddly school of human-animal interactions evidently doesn't see the distinction.
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  Little bit of both IMO by DesertRat662008-10-20 16:27:35
    Right, but it's *our* moral obligation by diginferno2008-10-20 16:36:09
      Oh, animals have a moral sense... by Lethosos2008-10-20 16:38:52
        Good point! :) (n/t) by diginferno2008-10-20 16:40:35
        My cat stalks and kills for fun. by dodrian2008-10-20 16:47:06
          Not really. by Lethosos2008-10-20 16:48:50
      Correct by DesertRat662008-10-20 17:06:23
  My opinion by Lethosos2008-10-20 16:34:23
    i agree for different reason by joecrouse2008-10-20 18:31:07
  I agree totally. by Peace_man2008-10-20 16:35:47
  Work animals could have responsibilities. by toysbfun2008-10-20 16:36:10
    Does yeast have responsibilities? (n/t) by run.dll2008-10-20 16:49:29
      Definitely by Nea2008-10-20 16:56:56
        Eeep *grabs own apostrophe and runs* (n/t) by Nea2008-10-20 16:57:47
        Oh yeah. Bread. Forgot about that. :-) (n/t) by run.dll2008-10-20 17:24:35
      Defined level of "responsibility": by Lethosos2008-10-20 16:59:49
  I don't believe in animal rights. by dodrian2008-10-20 17:15:58
    I hate to disappoint you but by cyberspooked2008-10-20 19:55:44
  I disagree on the coin thing by oot2008-10-20 18:01:12
    if we can cut the b4 off that aformentioned... by Nightwind2008-10-20 20:04:06
      Good point... ;-) by oot2008-10-20 20:10:11
        how is that project going? (n/t) by Nightwind2008-10-20 20:44:58

 

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