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UF Philosophy Corner | by MatthewDBA | 2008-08-22 08:01:34 |
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Yes. | by bitflipper | 2008-08-22 08:07:39 |
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Would you say | by MatthewDBA | 2008-08-22 08:33:13 |
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Actually, your interaction with the painting... | by bitflipper | 2008-08-22 08:54:55 |
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Which depends on | by MatthewDBA | 2008-08-22 08:59:57 |
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"Equivalent?" Unlikely. But certainly correlative. | by bitflipper | 2008-08-22 09:14:52 |
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Exactly | by MatthewDBA | 2008-08-22 09:20:25 |
| How certain do I need to be? |
by bitflipper |
2008-08-22 09:34:25 |
| I measure the changes in you. I measure similar changes in others who report a similar change in experience. I look for correlations among the gathered data. Is this significantly different from, say, measuring the rate of acceleration of various falling bodies at various points around the globe and then hypothesizing a constant for gravitational acceleration for the Earth with local variances? How about if I measure the color of various people's eyes, and then correlate that to their genome sequences? What if I make various imaging scans of the brains of various people as well as drawing blood and spinal fluid samples from them and try to correlate those to incidences of schizophrenic behavior among the sampled population? |
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I think it is | by MatthewDBA | 2008-08-22 09:39:59 |
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What do you mean by "really similar"? | by bitflipper | 2008-08-22 10:06:51 |
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I'm asking whether | by MatthewDBA | 2008-08-22 10:17:31 |
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The idea of taking a few measurements and then | by tallastro | 2008-08-22 10:34:10 |
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Agreed; I was thinking | by MatthewDBA | 2008-08-22 10:48:50 |
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Perhaps they are | by bitflipper | 2008-08-22 11:11:36 |
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You could find a change in my body, probably | by MatthewDBA | 2008-08-22 11:45:25 |
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Of *course* it does | by bitflipper | 2008-08-22 12:21:47 |
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I don't know where you'd find me | by MatthewDBA | 2008-08-22 12:27:17 |
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We begin to touch on theological differences, here | by bitflipper | 2008-08-22 12:39:27 |
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That's an interesting idea | by MatthewDBA | 2008-08-22 12:43:43 |
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I just realized | by MatthewDBA | 2008-08-22 13:03:49 |
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See? | by bitflipper | 2008-08-22 13:18:38 |
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<Deleted> | <Deleted> | 2008-08-22 15:26:25 |
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Moderated: Double Post (n/t) | by Nea | 2008-08-22 15:26:37 |
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woops. s/world or perceptions/world of perceptions (n/t) | by bitflipper | 2008-08-22 13:19:27 |
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Exactly. :grin: | by bitflipper | 2008-08-22 13:05:06 |
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Now that's *really* interesting | by MatthewDBA | 2008-08-22 13:12:50 |
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Anybody have something resembling empirical | by tallastro | 2008-08-22 13:10:51 |
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Not definitive, no. | by MatthewDBA | 2008-08-22 13:13:17 |
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Empirically speaking, I'm not aware of any | by bitflipper | 2008-08-22 13:37:13 |
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:grin: You *know* what correlation means in the... | by bitflipper | 2008-08-22 10:56:06 |
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The problem I have with that is | by MatthewDBA | 2008-08-22 11:00:35 |
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So, your claim is that I *can't* take measurements | by bitflipper | 2008-08-22 11:15:35 |
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My claim is | by MatthewDBA | 2008-08-22 11:44:07 |
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Which is different from my claim. | by tallastro | 2008-08-22 11:58:23 |
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Perhaps that's the next question then | by MatthewDBA | 2008-08-22 12:05:18 |
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Taken in order | by bitflipper | 2008-08-22 12:18:14 |
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I'm not certain why that last supposition | by MatthewDBA | 2008-08-22 12:19:13 |
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Setting aside for the moment... | by bitflipper | 2008-08-22 12:04:26 |
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I am claiming | by MatthewDBA | 2008-08-22 12:08:11 |
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It must be measureable, or it is not measureable. | by bitflipper | 2008-08-22 12:29:25 |
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That's what I initially thought you meant | by MatthewDBA | 2008-08-22 12:36:35 |
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Every cause is, itself, an effect, with its own | by bitflipper | 2008-08-22 12:54:48 |
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I think where I disagree | by MatthewDBA | 2008-08-22 13:00:10 |
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Could very well be | by bitflipper | 2008-08-22 13:56:52 |
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I'm not quite sure of that | by MatthewDBA | 2008-08-22 14:08:41 |
