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UF Philosophy Corner by MatthewDBA2008-08-22 08:01:34
  Yes. by bitflipper 2008-08-22 08:07:39
Next question? :grin:

All right, a little more seriously: the most evident candidate for change is you. All things change, but living, thinking organisms change very rapidly. Therefore, between you and the painting, I would more readily suspect you have changed--your experiences have been added to, over the past week, and your perceptions are colored by your experiences, hence, the change. The painting, too, has changed over the past week; it has aged. But the change in the painting is unlikely even to be noticeable to the human eye, especially when compared to the change one week can make in a person.
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    Would you say by MatthewDBA2008-08-22 08:33:13
      Actually, your interaction with the painting... by bitflipper2008-08-22 08:54:55
        Which depends on by MatthewDBA2008-08-22 08:59:57
          "Equivalent?" Unlikely. But certainly correlative. by bitflipper2008-08-22 09:14:52
            Exactly by MatthewDBA2008-08-22 09:20:25
              How certain do I need to be? by bitflipper2008-08-22 09:34:25
                I think it is by MatthewDBA2008-08-22 09:39:59
                  What do you mean by "really similar"? by bitflipper2008-08-22 10:06:51
                    I'm asking whether by MatthewDBA2008-08-22 10:17:31
                      The idea of taking a few measurements and then by tallastro2008-08-22 10:34:10
                        Agreed; I was thinking by MatthewDBA2008-08-22 10:48:50
                          Perhaps they are by bitflipper2008-08-22 11:11:36
                            You could find a change in my body, probably by MatthewDBA2008-08-22 11:45:25
                              Of *course* it does by bitflipper2008-08-22 12:21:47
                                I don't know where you'd find me by MatthewDBA2008-08-22 12:27:17
                                We begin to touch on theological differences, here by bitflipper2008-08-22 12:39:27
                                That's an interesting idea by MatthewDBA2008-08-22 12:43:43
                                I just realized by MatthewDBA2008-08-22 13:03:49
                                See? by bitflipper2008-08-22 13:18:38
                                <Deleted><Deleted>2008-08-22 15:26:25
                                Moderated: Double Post (n/t) by Nea2008-08-22 15:26:37
                                woops. s/world or perceptions/world of perceptions (n/t) by bitflipper2008-08-22 13:19:27
                                Exactly. :grin: by bitflipper2008-08-22 13:05:06
                                Now that's *really* interesting by MatthewDBA2008-08-22 13:12:50
                                Anybody have something resembling empirical by tallastro2008-08-22 13:10:51
                                Not definitive, no. by MatthewDBA2008-08-22 13:13:17
                                Empirically speaking, I'm not aware of any by bitflipper2008-08-22 13:37:13
                      :grin: You *know* what correlation means in the... by bitflipper2008-08-22 10:56:06
                        The problem I have with that is by MatthewDBA2008-08-22 11:00:35
                          So, your claim is that I *can't* take measurements by bitflipper2008-08-22 11:15:35
                            My claim is by MatthewDBA2008-08-22 11:44:07
                              Which is different from my claim. by tallastro2008-08-22 11:58:23
                                Perhaps that's the next question then by MatthewDBA2008-08-22 12:05:18
                                Taken in order by bitflipper2008-08-22 12:18:14
                                I'm not certain why that last supposition by MatthewDBA2008-08-22 12:19:13
                              Setting aside for the moment... by bitflipper2008-08-22 12:04:26
                                I am claiming by MatthewDBA2008-08-22 12:08:11
                                It must be measureable, or it is not measureable. by bitflipper2008-08-22 12:29:25
                                That's what I initially thought you meant by MatthewDBA2008-08-22 12:36:35
                                Every cause is, itself, an effect, with its own by bitflipper2008-08-22 12:54:48
                                I think where I disagree by MatthewDBA2008-08-22 13:00:10
                                Could very well be by bitflipper2008-08-22 13:56:52
                                I'm not quite sure of that by MatthewDBA2008-08-22 14:08:41

 

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