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UF Philosophy Corner by MatthewDBA 2008-08-22 08:01:34
Okay, here we go into aesthetics. I've never been here before and I don't really know my way around, but I thought we might as well check it out.

*turns light on*
*blows dust off table*
*searches*

Ah, here we go:

I go to the museum one day and see a really beautiful picture. I'm totally awed by it. Next weekend, I'm out with a friend of mine who also loves art. We go to the museum and look at it again. My friend says, "Wow, you're right - this is really great!" I look at the painting and think "Yeah, whatever - it doesn't look as good as I remember it."

Obviously, something has happened. Have I changed? Has the picture changed? Has my interaction with the picture changed? Or what's going on?
[ Reply ]
  your interaction has changed by tesla_koil2008-08-22 08:05:32
    But is it possible by MatthewDBA2008-08-22 08:30:50
      Mood swings much? by todAnthony2008-08-22 08:34:18
        Maybe just by MatthewDBA2008-08-22 08:36:08
          enviroment has changed by tesla_koil2008-08-22 08:37:00
            That's a privileged question, though by MatthewDBA2008-08-22 08:39:05
              if we measured your reaction via by tesla_koil2008-08-22 08:42:25
                Assuming of course by MatthewDBA2008-08-22 08:51:28
  Yes. by bitflipper2008-08-22 08:07:39
    Would you say by MatthewDBA2008-08-22 08:33:13
      Actually, your interaction with the painting... by bitflipper2008-08-22 08:54:55
        Which depends on by MatthewDBA2008-08-22 08:59:57
          "Equivalent?" Unlikely. But certainly correlative. by bitflipper2008-08-22 09:14:52
            Exactly by MatthewDBA2008-08-22 09:20:25
              How certain do I need to be? by bitflipper2008-08-22 09:34:25
                I think it is by MatthewDBA2008-08-22 09:39:59
                  What do you mean by "really similar"? by bitflipper2008-08-22 10:06:51
                    I'm asking whether by MatthewDBA2008-08-22 10:17:31
                      The idea of taking a few measurements and then by tallastro2008-08-22 10:34:10
                        Agreed; I was thinking by MatthewDBA2008-08-22 10:48:50
                          Perhaps they are by bitflipper2008-08-22 11:11:36
                            You could find a change in my body, probably by MatthewDBA2008-08-22 11:45:25
                              Of *course* it does by bitflipper2008-08-22 12:21:47
                                I don't know where you'd find me by MatthewDBA2008-08-22 12:27:17
                                We begin to touch on theological differences, here by bitflipper2008-08-22 12:39:27
                                That's an interesting idea by MatthewDBA2008-08-22 12:43:43
                                I just realized by MatthewDBA2008-08-22 13:03:49
                                See? by bitflipper2008-08-22 13:18:38
                                <Deleted><Deleted>2008-08-22 15:26:25
                                Moderated: Double Post (n/t) by Nea2008-08-22 15:26:37
                                woops. s/world or perceptions/world of perceptions (n/t) by bitflipper2008-08-22 13:19:27
                                Exactly. :grin: by bitflipper2008-08-22 13:05:06
                                Now that's *really* interesting by MatthewDBA2008-08-22 13:12:50
                                Anybody have something resembling empirical by tallastro2008-08-22 13:10:51
                                Not definitive, no. by MatthewDBA2008-08-22 13:13:17
                                Empirically speaking, I'm not aware of any by bitflipper2008-08-22 13:37:13
                      :grin: You *know* what correlation means in the... by bitflipper2008-08-22 10:56:06
                        The problem I have with that is by MatthewDBA2008-08-22 11:00:35
                          So, your claim is that I *can't* take measurements by bitflipper2008-08-22 11:15:35
                            My claim is by MatthewDBA2008-08-22 11:44:07
                              Which is different from my claim. by tallastro2008-08-22 11:58:23
                                Perhaps that's the next question then by MatthewDBA2008-08-22 12:05:18
                                Taken in order by bitflipper2008-08-22 12:18:14
                                I'm not certain why that last supposition by MatthewDBA2008-08-22 12:19:13
                              Setting aside for the moment... by bitflipper2008-08-22 12:04:26
                                I am claiming by MatthewDBA2008-08-22 12:08:11
                                It must be measureable, or it is not measureable. by bitflipper2008-08-22 12:29:25
                                That's what I initially thought you meant by MatthewDBA2008-08-22 12:36:35
                                Every cause is, itself, an effect, with its own by bitflipper2008-08-22 12:54:48
                                I think where I disagree by MatthewDBA2008-08-22 13:00:10
                                Could very well be by bitflipper2008-08-22 13:56:52
                                I'm not quite sure of that by MatthewDBA2008-08-22 14:08:41
  Which day did you forget to take by DesertRat662008-08-22 08:08:07
    I don't take blue pills by MatthewDBA2008-08-22 08:33:43
      Now, which pill makes you smaller, again? by bitflipper2008-08-22 08:37:31
        If you don't become smaller after 4 hours by tallastro2008-08-22 09:05:49
          A statistically negligible number of users by MatthewDBA2008-08-22 09:07:18
            Which unfortunately was a smaller number of users by tallastro2008-08-22 09:24:23
  The light is different now... by Dire_Lobo2008-08-22 08:10:16
  when you are truly awe-struck by aprylmae2008-08-22 08:12:42
    You're saying, then, by MatthewDBA2008-08-22 08:34:48
      I don't know what caused it the first time by aprylmae2008-08-22 08:40:15
    Agree by tallastro2008-08-22 08:51:38
  It is possible that the picture changed. by Peace_man2008-08-22 08:30:46
    That was actually going to be a follow-up by MatthewDBA2008-08-22 08:37:15
  You aren't a "virgin" anymore by voxwoman2008-08-22 09:00:19
    Similar to my answer by tallastro2008-08-22 09:19:26
      Did *knowing* it was the original heighten by bitflipper2008-08-22 09:21:43
        Possibly, I don't recall being very by tallastro2008-08-22 09:32:59
        Not for me. by voxwoman2008-08-22 09:48:44
  This is psychology, not philosophy. (n/t) by moddermonster2008-08-22 09:07:20
    No, it's by MatthewDBA2008-08-22 09:09:58

 

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