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Since we are almost in a recession by imrambi2008-03-20 11:48:51
  It's not a recession, it's just prices going up by murphoid2008-03-20 12:05:36
    Keep telling yourself that. (n/t) by Didactylos2008-03-20 12:08:29
      Where's the contraction of the US economy? by CynicalRyan2008-03-20 12:20:36
        What areas is it expanding in though? by subbywan2008-03-20 12:44:52
          Expansion is irrelevant for a discussion by CynicalRyan2008-03-20 12:48:10
            It may be relevant. by subbywan2008-03-20 12:51:45
              In that case, yes. by CynicalRyan2008-03-20 13:07:49
                Therein lies the trouble. by subbywan2008-03-20 13:16:43
                  Of course. by CynicalRyan2008-03-20 13:20:08
                    It all depends on where they get their source data by subbywan2008-03-20 13:22:46
                      Could just mean, that everybody uses the same by CynicalRyan2008-03-20 13:40:58
                        Yeah, but they're also French :P by subbywan2008-03-20 13:46:00
                          As if the French loved the States. :P by CynicalRyan2008-03-20 14:06:28
                            The US is seen as a entity in and of itself by subbywan2008-03-20 14:10:18
                              Elaborate, please, with short words, if you can. by CynicalRyan2008-03-20 14:12:42
                                Economically, the EU operates as a whole by subbywan2008-03-20 14:23:41
                                This is not quite true, I think. by CynicalRyan2008-03-20 14:35:56
                                The member states can be very diverse, but by subbywan 2008-03-20 14:46:08
they cannot be dealt with on their own merits only -- anything they do must be vetted by the EU as a whole, if only to make sure they're not stepping on any one elses toes.

The US can't trade *just* with one EU country, even if the paperwork says they are -- that EU country is constrained by certain obligations to the EU as a whole. That is what I mean by the OECD treating the EU as a whole -- they may be talking with just one or two EU member states, but they have to keep the whole EU in mind, as the member states are do not have the same freedom as Russia, or China, or the US to negotiate their own treaties.
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                                Of course the US can do so. by CynicalRyan2008-03-20 14:49:14
                                Even national security is tempered by subbywan2008-03-20 15:03:04
                                Not all EU members are Schengen members. by CynicalRyan2008-03-20 15:07:42
                                Yes, but the analogy holds. by subbywan2008-03-20 15:09:31
                                My point: by CynicalRyan2008-03-20 15:21:46
                                yes, you're talking past me :P by subbywan2008-03-20 15:32:36
                                Well, I said that my perspective can be skewed. by CynicalRyan2008-03-20 15:36:15
                                Actually, there are some aspects the US would do by subbywan2008-03-20 15:38:49
                                Works both ways. (n/t) by CynicalRyan2008-03-20 15:52:04

 

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