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Question for the people in the UK: by SnArL2008-02-13 10:47:58
  Huhwha? by krikkert2008-02-13 10:54:06
    How is this not relevant? by SnArL2008-02-13 11:05:45
      And how many of those assaults were lethal? by krikkert2008-02-13 11:11:28
        Meh, I could kill a deer with a sharpened stick. by RetiQlum22008-02-13 11:17:34
          The only problem I can see with that is by Vidi2008-02-13 11:27:24
            Maybe, maybe not by DesertRat662008-02-13 11:48:02
              I think you may be missing one important point. by Peace_man 2008-02-13 12:03:10
Deadly force will always favour the aggressor.

Or, in other words, if a criminal intends to kill you, it doesn't matter how many guns you have. The criminal will always be able to shoot first and kill you.

Of course, if you want to depend on the incompetence of criminals for your protection, I can see why you don't mind making it easy for them to arm themselves. Personally I prefer to minimize the probability that unintended harm becomes lethal. There are too many examples of innocent bystanders getting killed when criminals battle it out with guns.
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                No. Deterents are usefull. by RetiQlum22008-02-13 12:07:04
                  I think I can assure you that the Cold War by Peace_man2008-02-13 12:37:39
                    Which increases the criminals by lheggland2008-02-13 12:43:51
                      OK. So we agree that possession of a gun by Peace_man2008-02-13 12:55:03
                        No we can't, that is just silly. by lheggland2008-02-13 13:01:33
                          Not at all. by Peace_man2008-02-13 13:08:50
                            yep, run over them with a car while they're by techi8702008-02-13 13:11:20
                            Ok, and your point? by lheggland2008-02-13 13:13:46
                              My point is that there is no defense against by Peace_man2008-02-13 14:34:47
                                In your perfect world, by lheggland2008-02-13 14:55:40
                                You are advocating something I find distasteful. by Peace_man2008-02-13 14:58:45
                                I am not by lheggland2008-02-13 15:08:06
                                I hear you. I understand perfectly. by Peace_man2008-02-13 15:18:15
                                I really hope you are joking. by lheggland2008-02-13 15:25:59
                                40 cents in your pocket is enough to be killed for by joecrouse2008-02-13 22:06:53
                                No defense? None?! by DesertRat662008-02-13 14:56:48
                                You are still alive. by Peace_man2008-02-13 15:00:21
                                BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! by DesertRat662008-02-13 15:13:16
                                Wrong? Your own words make a liar out of you. by Peace_man2008-02-13 15:21:49
                                You mean your words? by DesertRat662008-02-13 16:25:00
                        Nope by DesertRat662008-02-13 13:48:01
                          Am I hearing this right? by Peace_man2008-02-13 14:37:32
                            Don't need a good story by DesertRat662008-02-13 14:50:22
                              I could make that claim. by Peace_man2008-02-13 14:56:31
                I disagree, if you are aware of your surroundings by techi8702008-02-13 12:09:18
                  Ding! Translation: by DesertRat662008-02-13 12:13:42
                  I agree completely. by Peace_man2008-02-13 12:31:58
                    I was talking about the comment about the by techi8702008-02-13 13:01:11
                      giving the extreme distance factor by robertltux2008-02-13 14:23:38
                      So now the training associated with gun use by Peace_man2008-02-13 14:39:28
                        A large part of the training is being aware of by techi8702008-02-13 15:11:19
                          You are preaching to the choir. by Peace_man2008-02-13 15:23:00
                    Sharks dont eat other sharks by joecrouse2008-02-13 22:09:52
                You are so wrong, again. by lheggland2008-02-13 12:09:50
                  Wait. It looks like maybe you are moving the by Peace_man2008-02-13 12:27:00
                    The chance of an armed "mark" by chanceslost2008-02-13 12:40:03
                      I'd be extremely interested in such studies. by Peace_man2008-02-13 12:57:54
                      Lawyers Guns and Burglars by DesertRat662008-02-13 14:03:47
                        Interesting piece. It doesn't mention something by Peace_man2008-02-13 15:14:53
                          You forgot one other option: by subbywan2008-02-13 16:17:19
                    What?! by lheggland2008-02-13 12:40:10
                      Ah, so we ARE talking about violent crime? by Peace_man2008-02-13 12:51:03
                        The problem with that belief is that it is wrong. by lheggland2008-02-13 12:53:55
                          Which belief are you addressing? by Peace_man2008-02-13 13:00:56
                            "proliferation of guns" (n/t) by lheggland2008-02-13 13:02:19
                              You believe that a proliferation of guns by Peace_man2008-02-13 14:54:38
                                I believe it's irrelevant in the way you word it by DesertRat662008-02-13 15:03:46
                                I don't know who has been feeding you lies. by Peace_man2008-02-13 15:32:15
                                can you back that up? by subbywan2008-02-13 15:51:16
                                Without wishing to get involved in a holy war here by AndyA2008-02-13 16:09:24
                                Agreed. Which is exactly why I asked for sources by subbywan2008-02-13 16:11:53
                                Use Maryland by joecrouse2008-02-13 22:17:59
                                Really? by DesertRat662008-02-13 16:20:38
                    Allow me to 'splain by SnArL2008-02-13 12:44:46
                      I'd be much more likely to attempt to steal by Peace_man2008-02-13 13:05:49
                        The Point by SnArL2008-02-13 13:22:20
                          Actually, I didn't miss it. by Peace_man2008-02-13 14:30:40
                        you side steped the question (n/t) by joecrouse2008-02-13 22:19:37
                Criminals by general definition and by by joecrouse2008-02-13 22:04:15

 

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