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Alexis de Tocqueville on the U.S. election by DesertRat662008-01-15 09:04:28
  I take it this isn't recent enough to by Peace_man2008-01-15 09:49:28
    It is a warning by DesertRat662008-01-15 09:57:32
      Surrender of freedom to a tutelary power by Peace_man2008-01-15 10:22:49
        And you wonder why we're advocates... by esbita2008-01-15 10:33:24
          Yes. by Peace_man2008-01-15 10:40:54
            Judging from the world around us... by esbita2008-01-15 11:09:08
              I suspect we aren't likely to agree on this. by Peace_man2008-01-15 13:33:53
                Oil and water, yes. by esbita2008-01-15 13:56:19
                  Maybe we live in different worlds then. by Peace_man2008-01-15 14:01:11
                    um, you mean like the recent posts you made by subbywan2008-01-15 14:02:35
                      You have me mistaken for someone else. by Peace_man2008-01-15 14:21:34
                        I expect that they should be adults by joecrouse2008-01-15 14:24:13
                          I'm sorry to hear that this is your experience. by Peace_man2008-01-15 14:26:29
                            No. too many people see this in too many by subbywan2008-01-15 14:28:34
                              Do I live in a better place than you? by Peace_man2008-01-15 14:33:48
                                You do not. by subbywan2008-01-15 14:35:04
                                Your glass may be half empty. by Peace_man2008-01-15 14:41:56
                                For what could be would require by joecrouse2008-01-15 14:49:53
                                I really don't like that viewpoint. by Peace_man2008-01-15 15:04:25
                                I do see them as inevitable by joecrouse2008-01-15 15:10:22
                                Are you kidding? by Peace_man 2008-01-15 15:24:26
Those collapses you are talking about ARE the end of civilization as we know it. Not something to welcome, I assure you.

And a good selective plague would simply leave lots of resources around - that people could take and avoid working.

Sounds like you are seeing a lack of a work ethic. Which is too bad. I honestly don't know exactly what it takes to get that back - I could suggest the availability of honest work at a decent wage, but I thought this was available in most of the USA.
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                                There is plenty of work, by lheggland2008-01-15 15:30:28
                                That sucks. by Peace_man2008-01-15 15:44:20
                                The various Governments the people voted in by subbywan2008-01-15 15:46:18
                                Points WAY WAY WAY up this thread by joecrouse2008-01-15 19:35:37
                                No a good selective plauge would by joecrouse2008-01-15 19:34:26

 

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