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Alexis de Tocqueville on the U.S. election by DesertRat662008-01-15 09:04:28
  I take it this isn't recent enough to by Peace_man2008-01-15 09:49:28
    It is a warning by DesertRat662008-01-15 09:57:32
      Surrender of freedom to a tutelary power by Peace_man2008-01-15 10:22:49
        And you wonder why we're advocates... by esbita2008-01-15 10:33:24
          Yes. by Peace_man2008-01-15 10:40:54
            Judging from the world around us... by esbita2008-01-15 11:09:08
              I suspect we aren't likely to agree on this. by Peace_man 2008-01-15 13:33:53
There may be as many distinct opinions on this as there are people. I just hope that we can continue to discuss this while showing respect for each others' viewpoints. I find it very interesting - almost compelling.
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                Oil and water, yes. by esbita2008-01-15 13:56:19
                  Maybe we live in different worlds then. by Peace_man2008-01-15 14:01:11
                    um, you mean like the recent posts you made by subbywan2008-01-15 14:02:35
                      You have me mistaken for someone else. by Peace_man2008-01-15 14:21:34
                        Indeed I do not have you mistaken for someone else (n/t) by subbywan2008-01-15 14:22:59
                        I expect that they should be adults by joecrouse2008-01-15 14:24:13
                          You forgot egocentric (n/t) by subbywan2008-01-15 14:25:10
                            I thought all those things = egocentric. (n/t) by joecrouse2008-01-15 14:25:41
                              hrm. i'll have to consider that, but you may have by subbywan2008-01-15 14:29:07
                          I'm sorry to hear that this is your experience. by Peace_man2008-01-15 14:26:29
                            No. too many people see this in too many by subbywan2008-01-15 14:28:34
                              Do I live in a better place than you? by Peace_man2008-01-15 14:33:48
                                You do not. by subbywan2008-01-15 14:35:04
                                Your glass may be half empty. by Peace_man2008-01-15 14:41:56
                                My glass is very nearly full. by subbywan2008-01-15 14:45:02
                                I had no idea you were a police man. by Peace_man2008-01-15 14:58:46
                                Which claim? by subbywan2008-01-15 15:03:28
                                Your claim that you stop people from taking by Peace_man2008-01-15 15:07:10
                                Yes, and I do by subbywan2008-01-15 15:10:07
                                Are there a lot of attempts to take what is yours? by Peace_man2008-01-15 15:19:53
                                a lot, no. But some, yes. by subbywan2008-01-15 15:26:50
                                What this thread needs is... by swisscheese2008-01-15 17:46:31
                                Every april 15th. (n/t) by joecrouse2008-01-15 19:32:14
                                For what could be would require by joecrouse2008-01-15 14:49:53
                                First 5 min of "Idiocracy" highlights that *well* (n/t) by subbywan2008-01-15 14:51:18
                                I really don't like that viewpoint. by Peace_man2008-01-15 15:04:25
                                I do see them as inevitable by joecrouse2008-01-15 15:10:22
                                Are you kidding? by Peace_man2008-01-15 15:24:26
                                There is plenty of work, by lheggland2008-01-15 15:30:28
                                That sucks. by Peace_man2008-01-15 15:44:20
                                The various Governments the people voted in by subbywan2008-01-15 15:46:18
                                Points WAY WAY WAY up this thread by joecrouse2008-01-15 19:35:37
                                No a good selective plauge would by joecrouse2008-01-15 19:34:26
                            You live in a rather small town by joecrouse2008-01-15 14:39:56
                              I live on an acreage. by Peace_man2008-01-15 14:52:51
                                Um, you do realise that most of the modern world by subbywan2008-01-15 14:54:56
                                How and where I live demonstrates that by Peace_man2008-01-15 15:10:16
                                For now, yes. by subbywan2008-01-15 15:12:35
                                your sample group is to small and homgenous then. (n/t) by joecrouse2008-01-15 15:12:56
                                ok then you live in a MUCH smaller community by joecrouse2008-01-15 14:56:09
                                Just what do you consider a small town? by lheggland2008-01-15 15:13:56
                                3000 (roughly Havre De Grace sized) by joecrouse2008-01-15 15:20:06
                                IMO, those are not small towns. by lheggland2008-01-15 15:24:19
                                Not really gonna happen on the east coast till by joecrouse2008-01-15 19:37:00
                    Same world, but not all of us wear blinders. by esbita2008-01-15 15:56:26
                      Same in an italian neighborhood and for by joecrouse2008-01-15 19:40:00

 

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