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Alexis de Tocqueville on the U.S. election | by DesertRat66 | 2008-01-15 09:04:28 |
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I take it this isn't recent enough to | by Peace_man | 2008-01-15 09:49:28 |
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It is a warning | by DesertRat66 | 2008-01-15 09:57:32 |
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Surrender of freedom to a tutelary power | by Peace_man | 2008-01-15 10:22:49 |
| And you wonder why we're advocates... |
by esbita |
2008-01-15 10:33:24 |
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Yes. | by Peace_man | 2008-01-15 10:40:54 |
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There is little benifit to a large government | by joecrouse | 2008-01-15 10:57:47 |
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Wasn't that what the Roman Empire provided? | by Peace_man | 2008-01-15 12:33:53 |
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And where to Govt initiatives come from? (n/t) | by subbywan | 2008-01-15 14:05:02 |
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and look what happened to the Romans | by joecrouse | 2008-01-15 14:21:00 |
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Their government became corrupt. | by Peace_man | 2008-01-15 14:23:08 |
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Your missing WHY it became corrupt | by joecrouse | 2008-01-15 14:53:26 |
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Are you willing to allow a corrupt government? | by Peace_man | 2008-01-15 15:02:06 |
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I do speak out against it as do many | by joecrouse | 2008-01-15 15:11:43 |
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Corruption is everywhere. It is NOT inherent | by Peace_man | 2008-01-15 15:15:20 |
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For very very small systems. | by subbywan | 2008-01-15 15:15:55 |
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no your right the coruption isnt in the system | by joecrouse | 2008-01-15 15:20:46 |
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That is correct. | by Peace_man | 2008-01-15 15:27:30 |
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no its still coruption. | by joecrouse | 2008-01-15 19:31:51 |
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Judging from the world around us... | by esbita | 2008-01-15 11:09:08 |
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I suspect we aren't likely to agree on this. | by Peace_man | 2008-01-15 13:33:53 |
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Oil and water, yes. | by esbita | 2008-01-15 13:56:19 |
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Maybe we live in different worlds then. | by Peace_man | 2008-01-15 14:01:11 |
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um, you mean like the recent posts you made | by subbywan | 2008-01-15 14:02:35 |
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You have me mistaken for someone else. | by Peace_man | 2008-01-15 14:21:34 |
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Indeed I do not have you mistaken for someone else (n/t) | by subbywan | 2008-01-15 14:22:59 |
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I expect that they should be adults | by joecrouse | 2008-01-15 14:24:13 |
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You forgot egocentric (n/t) | by subbywan | 2008-01-15 14:25:10 |
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I thought all those things = egocentric. (n/t) | by joecrouse | 2008-01-15 14:25:41 |
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hrm. i'll have to consider that, but you may have | by subbywan | 2008-01-15 14:29:07 |
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I'm sorry to hear that this is your experience. | by Peace_man | 2008-01-15 14:26:29 |
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No. too many people see this in too many | by subbywan | 2008-01-15 14:28:34 |
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Do I live in a better place than you? | by Peace_man | 2008-01-15 14:33:48 |
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You do not. | by subbywan | 2008-01-15 14:35:04 |
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Your glass may be half empty. | by Peace_man | 2008-01-15 14:41:56 |
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My glass is very nearly full. | by subbywan | 2008-01-15 14:45:02 |
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I had no idea you were a police man. | by Peace_man | 2008-01-15 14:58:46 |
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Which claim? | by subbywan | 2008-01-15 15:03:28 |
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Your claim that you stop people from taking | by Peace_man | 2008-01-15 15:07:10 |
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Yes, and I do | by subbywan | 2008-01-15 15:10:07 |
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Are there a lot of attempts to take what is yours? | by Peace_man | 2008-01-15 15:19:53 |
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a lot, no. But some, yes. | by subbywan | 2008-01-15 15:26:50 |
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What this thread needs is... | by swisscheese | 2008-01-15 17:46:31 |
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Every april 15th. (n/t) | by joecrouse | 2008-01-15 19:32:14 |
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For what could be would require | by joecrouse | 2008-01-15 14:49:53 |
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First 5 min of "Idiocracy" highlights that *well* (n/t) | by subbywan | 2008-01-15 14:51:18 |
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I really don't like that viewpoint. | by Peace_man | 2008-01-15 15:04:25 |
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I do see them as inevitable | by joecrouse | 2008-01-15 15:10:22 |
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Are you kidding? | by Peace_man | 2008-01-15 15:24:26 |
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There is plenty of work, | by lheggland | 2008-01-15 15:30:28 |
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That sucks. | by Peace_man | 2008-01-15 15:44:20 |
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The various Governments the people voted in | by subbywan | 2008-01-15 15:46:18 |
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Points WAY WAY WAY up this thread | by joecrouse | 2008-01-15 19:35:37 |
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No a good selective plauge would | by joecrouse | 2008-01-15 19:34:26 |
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You live in a rather small town | by joecrouse | 2008-01-15 14:39:56 |
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I live on an acreage. | by Peace_man | 2008-01-15 14:52:51 |
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Um, you do realise that most of the modern world | by subbywan | 2008-01-15 14:54:56 |
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How and where I live demonstrates that | by Peace_man | 2008-01-15 15:10:16 |
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For now, yes. | by subbywan | 2008-01-15 15:12:35 |
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your sample group is to small and homgenous then. (n/t) | by joecrouse | 2008-01-15 15:12:56 |
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ok then you live in a MUCH smaller community | by joecrouse | 2008-01-15 14:56:09 |
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Just what do you consider a small town? | by lheggland | 2008-01-15 15:13:56 |
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3000 (roughly Havre De Grace sized) | by joecrouse | 2008-01-15 15:20:06 |
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IMO, those are not small towns. | by lheggland | 2008-01-15 15:24:19 |
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Not really gonna happen on the east coast till | by joecrouse | 2008-01-15 19:37:00 |
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Same world, but not all of us wear blinders. | by esbita | 2008-01-15 15:56:26 |
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Same in an italian neighborhood and for | by joecrouse | 2008-01-15 19:40:00 |
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Jefferson put his faith in a robust free press | by swisscheese | 2008-01-15 12:40:54 |
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That tells me why we need to ensure a | by Peace_man | 2008-01-15 13:29:47 |
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Which only works when said press is responsible. | by subbywan | 2008-01-15 14:07:02 |
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How would you propose ensuring a responsible | by Peace_man | 2008-01-15 14:25:08 |
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I'd shoot irresponsible reports and editors. | by subbywan | 2008-01-15 14:27:15 |
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That sounds like something worth pushing for. | by Peace_man | 2008-01-15 14:37:03 |
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I would. | by subbywan | 2008-01-15 14:40:38 |
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libel law is so overwhelming a club... | by swisscheese | 2008-01-15 19:28:17 |
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Readers. Perhaps a self induced | by joecrouse | 2008-01-15 14:40:48 |
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Id require news papers to be written on a | by joecrouse | 2008-01-15 14:32:19 |
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I'd start by limiting ownership concentration | by swisscheese | 2008-01-15 19:16:49 |
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NO WAY!! We are responsible | by manatee | 2008-01-15 15:09:23 |
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Common sense isn't. | by subbywan | 2008-01-15 15:15:22 |
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I applaud the rag sheets they are the ultimate | by joecrouse | 2008-01-15 15:22:15 |
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Think of it from a Fred Brooks perspective | by hobbs | 2008-01-15 13:22:25 |
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Please tell me how that explains the | by Peace_man | 2008-01-15 13:26:50 |
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Beacuse, | by lheggland | 2008-01-15 13:34:12 |
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How is that again? | by Peace_man | 2008-01-15 13:39:57 |
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Large == inefficent | by Sterling_Ag | 2008-01-15 13:53:23 |
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You make no sense. | by Peace_man | 2008-01-15 13:59:24 |
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VERY much so. | by subbywan | 2008-01-15 14:09:48 |
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Share holders are different from voters. | by Peace_man | 2008-01-15 14:32:12 |
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You're talking about only 1 type of shareholder | by subbywan | 2008-01-15 14:35:49 |
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Goverments have other concerns than effeiciency | by swisscheese | 2008-01-15 19:52:05 |
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As long as the shareholders stay happy | by Sterling_Ag | 2008-01-15 14:12:57 |
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Large companies take advantage of | by joecrouse | 2008-01-15 14:19:03 |
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If it is inefficient, it has to be because it is | by Peace_man | 2008-01-15 15:47:54 |
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Because not enough people give a damn | by subbywan | 2008-01-15 15:54:26 |
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The source of the revenue is the problem. | by lheggland | 2008-01-15 14:00:39 |
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The source of the revenue doesn't matter. | by Peace_man | 2008-01-15 14:18:59 |
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most stockholders do not get that involved with | by subbywan | 2008-01-15 14:24:23 |
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I have seen it get a lot worse since | by Peace_man | 2008-01-15 15:13:35 |
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What you're missing is that | by Sterling_Ag | 2008-01-15 14:25:24 |
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Good point! | by Peace_man | 2008-01-15 15:50:34 |
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And the government should provide | by joecrouse | 2008-01-15 19:43:10 |
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Nope the theory is just fine.. | by Sterling_Ag | 2008-01-15 13:45:48 |
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Heh. Sounds like you have experienced | by Peace_man | 2008-01-15 13:52:28 |
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Not true at all. | by lheggland | 2008-01-15 14:04:47 |
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VERY not true. | by joecrouse | 2008-01-15 14:43:21 |
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Because large government exists | by hobbs | 2008-01-15 15:28:07 |