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Why children should be taught basic gun safety by Classic_Jon2008-01-15 08:33:06
  Pardon a stupid question from a Norwegian, but by asfrith 2008-01-15 09:08:28
wouldn't it be better to just NOT have any weapons around? I mean, if kids never can get their hands on firearms, then they don't NEED to learn...

And we might stave off more catastrophe's like Columbine to boot...
[ Reply ]
    parents not keeping weapons around by aprylmae2008-01-15 09:10:38
      seem to work over here. by asfrith2008-01-15 09:13:34
        very different culture. (n/t) by subbywan2008-01-15 09:14:58
          I know. by asfrith2008-01-15 09:19:42
            HV != Homeland Security. by krikkert2008-01-15 09:21:39
              Gah... Sorry. by asfrith2008-01-15 09:25:25
                No worries. by krikkert2008-01-15 09:27:03
                  Of course! (n/t) by asfrith2008-01-15 09:28:35
                  There's a difference? (n/t) by Formynder2008-01-15 09:49:34
                    Yes. (n/t) by krikkert2008-01-15 09:55:41
                      They have a DIFFERENT wierd accent. by Havoc2008-01-15 11:28:40
                        I think they play more tennis, too. by JPaganel2008-01-15 14:21:48
            You assume we *want* to change the culture. (n/t) by subbywan2008-01-15 09:22:25
              Of course you do. (n/t) by krikkert2008-01-15 09:24:51
                *i* do. *we* don't. by subbywan2008-01-15 09:33:35
              Why not? by asfrith2008-01-15 09:26:17
                Because weapons is only one part of the culture by subbywan2008-01-15 09:30:41
                  Loosing one part of a culture by asfrith2008-01-15 09:35:51
                    When it's as integral a part of the culture as it by subbywan2008-01-15 09:37:31
                      I don't agree. by asfrith2008-01-15 09:41:27
                        That's a false analogy. by subbywan2008-01-15 09:43:51
                          That's right. by asfrith2008-01-15 09:49:53
                            Again, *potential*. by subbywan2008-01-15 09:53:31
                        The facts tend to differ from your assertion. by lheggland2008-01-15 09:56:44
                Here is a slippery slope argument to go the other by Classic_Jon2008-01-15 10:07:49
                  Anyone here remember a story by manatee2008-01-15 12:59:08
              there are things by aprylmae2008-01-15 09:41:01
            they have made it more difficult by aprylmae2008-01-15 09:24:39
              *Gives aprylmae a Gold Star* (n/t) by DesertRat662008-01-15 09:43:58
                oooo, shiny. I could be distracted for hours now. (n/t) by aprylmae2008-01-15 09:48:08
              Can we arm the bears too? (n/t) by krikkert2008-01-15 09:48:29
                I know of at least one armed Elk in California by DesertRat662008-01-15 09:51:00
                  Bwahahahaha, I remember that story! by Classic_Jon2008-01-15 10:10:38
                if they can be trained handle them safely... (n/t) by aprylmae2008-01-15 10:09:29
            Nopt anywhere near the U.S. per capita by DesertRat662008-01-15 09:31:55
              Where do you have those statistics from? (n/t) by asfrith2008-01-15 09:37:01
                Two sources by DesertRat662008-01-15 09:39:33
                  Funny, by krikkert2008-01-15 09:44:53
                  Hummm... by asfrith2008-01-15 09:46:40
                    Still off by DesertRat662008-01-15 09:49:56
                      Homogenous society. by krikkert2008-01-15 09:51:03
                        What he said. (n/t) by asfrith2008-01-15 09:51:23
                        Translation: by DesertRat662008-01-15 09:51:35
                          True. by asfrith2008-01-15 09:53:08
                            But we don't *want* it to change. (n/t) by subbywan2008-01-15 10:00:03
                          Wealth has nothing to do with culture. by krikkert2008-01-15 09:54:37
                            Wealth has a lot to do with culture. by subbywan2008-01-15 09:56:23
                    Is there a training that you have to go through to by Classic_Jon2008-01-15 10:20:10
                      The Law of Explosives and Weaponry by krikkert2008-01-15 11:30:04
                        So the point about training making things safer by Classic_Jon2008-01-15 11:42:39
              Got a cite for that claim? by krikkert2008-01-15 09:39:34
                Go here by DesertRat662008-01-15 09:42:38
                  more info by Havoc2008-01-15 11:27:40
            But that means you were trained how to handle a by Classic_Jon2008-01-15 09:58:37
        Very different culture, yet... by vvpete2008-01-15 09:18:20
          That would be Sweden. (n/t) by krikkert2008-01-15 09:20:42
          That was Sweden. In 1986. by asfrith2008-01-15 09:24:26
            Actually, they do. by krikkert2008-01-15 09:26:13
              Like I said, unless they get a specific clearance. by asfrith2008-01-15 09:28:00
        I don't want to sound snarky here, but... by jdelphiki2008-01-15 09:23:39
          Well, by asfrith2008-01-15 09:31:48
            More people die from car crashes than guns by subbywan2008-01-15 09:39:08
              Definately. by asfrith2008-01-15 09:40:15
                Solve? no. Improve? yes by aprylmae2008-01-15 09:43:55
              and if you're talking accidents by DesertRat662008-01-15 09:48:02
                Ladders scare me. (n/t) by Havoc2008-01-15 11:25:16
            Who decides which dangerous things to remove? by jdelphiki2008-01-15 10:50:05
              Works with nukes too by Havoc2008-01-15 11:35:42
                What "can" be dangerous if not properly used? by aprylmae2008-01-15 12:01:07
                  All we can do is sit and rock gently back and fort by Havoc2008-01-15 14:27:27
                    Doesn't work either by aprylmae2008-01-15 14:36:30
          I agree -- "safety" through ignorance doesn't turn by Concept2008-01-15 09:41:53
        Heh by Havoc2008-01-15 11:21:23
      No and the concept of "Adults Only" by robertltux2008-01-15 09:51:53
        the conept of adults only by aprylmae2008-01-15 09:57:07
        If you make it "bad" for a 12 to 18 year old by Classic_Jon2008-01-15 10:17:35
          Ding, Ding, we have a winner! by lheggland2008-01-15 10:42:48
            I would put that this comes in stages by robertltux2008-01-15 11:10:37
              of course by aprylmae2008-01-15 11:16:39
              Yep, take a look at the Eddie Eagle program I by Classic_Jon2008-01-15 12:09:27
            Thank you :) (n/t) by Classic_Jon2008-01-15 12:10:00
          thank you by aprylmae2008-01-15 11:12:51
          When I was 9, I shot my brother in the face by Havoc2008-01-15 11:33:10
    No, it wouldn't. (n/t) by subbywan2008-01-15 09:10:38
    First you have to close Pandora's Box by DesertRat662008-01-15 09:11:19
    The problem is, by krikkert2008-01-15 09:20:10
      True. by asfrith2008-01-15 09:38:37
        Kzinti lession by Stibbons2008-01-15 10:21:46
          well a car by roadhog2008-01-15 12:57:21
            That wasn't my intention by Stibbons2008-01-15 15:03:39
      It will change for you guys as time goes on. by lheggland2008-01-15 10:05:58
        This is true. by krikkert2008-01-15 10:10:33
    Guns are good! People are bad! by Bonzo2008-01-15 09:34:14
      (16 with a parent's permission, by krikkert2008-01-15 09:41:10
        Hence my "(by your self)".. ;) (n/t) by Bonzo2008-01-15 10:04:18
    And no cars would prevent teen driving accidents by hyzenthlay2008-01-15 09:44:33
      no keyboards by aprylmae2008-01-15 09:52:03
        You are so right! I intend to lobby by hyzenthlay2008-01-15 10:32:48
    On Columbine, that is a society issue as well as a by Classic_Jon2008-01-15 10:34:48

 

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