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RE: Fred and top sirloin (ridiculously long) by SlyW2007-10-22 08:10:59
  Wow, what a lot of hypotheticals. by Didactylos2007-10-22 08:37:22
    See my reply, Canada's system has good outcomes (n/t) by cristobal2007-10-22 08:43:23
      Yes indeed. by Didactylos2007-10-22 08:46:22
        If theory is wrong then why is Canada shifting? by SlyW2007-10-22 09:02:08
          Rich people like convenience. by Didactylos2007-10-22 09:14:06
            "Stupidly low taxes" ??? by SlyW2007-10-22 09:21:23
              You do know you have low taxes, right? by Didactylos2007-10-22 09:27:52
                Umm, yeah! by DesertRat662007-10-22 09:31:58
                  Ooh, I know this one! by dodrian2007-10-22 09:39:39
                    This says more about your rich/poor divide by Didactylos2007-10-22 09:50:27
                      Our "poor" are rich by world standards. by lheggland2007-10-22 09:57:15
                        Wishful thinking, I'm afraid. (n/t) by Didactylos2007-10-22 10:09:25
                          Lets think about this, by lheggland2007-10-22 10:28:59
                            I was comparing the US with other first world by Didactylos2007-10-22 10:38:50
                              The first time I ever saw poeple living by lheggland2007-10-22 10:54:50
                                Have you ever BEEN on welfare? by SnArL2007-10-22 11:12:35
                                Nope, by lheggland 2007-10-22 11:34:13
I made sure that I had a job and marketable skills. OTH I know quite a few poeple who are on it or grew up on it. I have talked to them about it extensively.

Some people want off, others are perfectly happy living in dependency to the state. I had junior enlisted working for me who earned less then their friends who stayed at home collecting welfare. Like a said before, I know people who quite good jobs to go onto welfare because the housing benefit made the total income higher then it was in the work force.

The system is broken and needs to be fixed. Right now the working poor have a very hard time getting help, but those who choose not to work at all get head of the line for most programs. There is very little incentive to leave the program.
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