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RE: Fred and top sirloin (ridiculously long) by SlyW2007-10-22 08:10:59
  Wow, what a lot of hypotheticals. by Didactylos2007-10-22 08:37:22
    See my reply, Canada's system has good outcomes (n/t) by cristobal2007-10-22 08:43:23
      Yes indeed. by Didactylos2007-10-22 08:46:22
        If theory is wrong then why is Canada shifting? by SlyW 2007-10-22 09:02:08
Link

And shifting to a two-tier system with both public and private health-care coverage? I think the answer is clear to anyone who has the means to afford private health-care.

I think it is important to note that at no point did I say that we should abolish governmental (i.e. public) health-care. In fact, I simply advocated against TOTAL socialized medicine.

More to the point, the original article about the restaurant wasn't directed at socialized medicine (a VERY inflammatory topic) but all subsidies. The medicine ship sailed with the reference to the Fred article.

P.S. if cbc.ca is a bunk news service, then I will find other articles. That was the top hit.
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          Rich people like convenience. by Didactylos2007-10-22 09:14:06
            BWAHAHAHAHA!!!! by esbita2007-10-22 09:16:46
              What part of my post has caused you mirth? (n/t) by Didactylos2007-10-22 09:19:01
                I'd wager pretty much the whole thing by DesertRat662007-10-22 09:23:44
                Mainly the 3rd paragraph. by esbita2007-10-22 09:29:20
                  You need a viewpoint shift. by Didactylos2007-10-22 09:39:37
                    You also need to figure in Malpractice insurance by Classic_Jon2007-10-22 09:43:50
                    Here is an example of where some of the money goes by vdp2007-10-22 09:45:52
                      And your point? by lheggland2007-10-22 09:50:31
                      Someone is confusing non-profit by DesertRat662007-10-22 09:56:01
                    Cheap? Half of healthcare is *already* paid by esbita2007-10-22 09:49:48
            "Stupidly low taxes" ??? by SlyW2007-10-22 09:21:23
              You do know you have low taxes, right? by Didactylos2007-10-22 09:27:52
                Umm, yeah! by DesertRat662007-10-22 09:31:58
                  Ooh, I know this one! by dodrian2007-10-22 09:39:39
                    Close enough by DesertRat662007-10-22 09:46:41
                      I'd like to see a study done by dodrian2007-10-22 09:53:00
                    This says more about your rich/poor divide by Didactylos2007-10-22 09:50:27
                      Our poor enjoy a negative tax rate by esbita2007-10-22 09:51:47
                      Our "poor" are rich by world standards. by lheggland2007-10-22 09:57:15
                        Wishful thinking, I'm afraid. (n/t) by Didactylos2007-10-22 10:09:25
                          Not. Even. Close. To. Wishful. Thinking. by DesertRat662007-10-22 10:21:01
                            That stuff is all really nice by SnArL2007-10-22 11:09:06
                              You can't MAKE people buy food by subbywan2007-10-22 11:11:29
                                Hold up, there by SnArL2007-10-22 12:04:06
                                But you COULD sell it. (n/t) by subbywan2007-10-22 12:06:48
                                Correction: by MatthewDBA2007-10-22 12:10:46
                                Not at all. by subbywan2007-10-22 12:13:34
                                Depends on where you live by MatthewDBA2007-10-22 12:33:25
                                It's not optimism. by subbywan2007-10-22 12:44:50
                                Maybe it's different experience by MatthewDBA2007-10-22 12:56:30
                                Welfare =! Unemployment Insurance by lheggland2007-10-22 12:19:26
                              The link also covers food and nutrition by DesertRat662007-10-22 11:26:06
                          Lets think about this, by lheggland2007-10-22 10:28:59
                            I was comparing the US with other first world by Didactylos2007-10-22 10:38:50
                              You are naive by subbywan2007-10-22 10:44:57
                                It's not clear from the source by MatthewDBA2007-10-22 10:52:15
                                Census Bureau Poverty Level by Stuka2007-10-22 10:56:20
                                The census shouldn't define "poor" by subbywan2007-10-22 10:56:56
                                The Bureau of the Census by MatthewDBA2007-10-22 11:03:55
                                fair enough :) (n/t) by subbywan2007-10-22 11:05:13
                              It sounds like you're focusing on relative poverty by esbita2007-10-22 10:47:03
                              The average poor American has more living space by DesertRat662007-10-22 10:52:51
                              Question: Where in your previous statements do by Classic_Jon2007-10-22 10:54:06
                                Sorry, the claim was in lheggland's post by Didactylos2007-10-22 10:57:06
                                Understood, I didn't see it and thought I would by Classic_Jon2007-10-22 11:10:18
                              The first time I ever saw poeple living by lheggland2007-10-22 10:54:50
                                Have you ever BEEN on welfare? by SnArL2007-10-22 11:12:35
                                My best friend was for some time by DesertRat662007-10-22 11:23:27
                                The rules have changed *somewhat* since then. by esbita2007-10-22 11:25:47
                                Yeah, He got caught in that by DesertRat662007-10-22 11:30:11
                                That's a vastly different experience than what MY by SnArL2007-10-22 11:33:52
                                Trouble is, states set the benefit levels. by esbita2007-10-22 11:42:39
                                And a state that pays well, often gets flooded by subbywan2007-10-22 11:47:33
                                That's really messed up by SnArL2007-10-22 11:59:11
                                All the more reason the feds should stay out of by subbywan2007-10-22 12:07:51
                                I agree wholehartedly (n/t) by SnArL2007-10-22 12:20:33
                                The GF you met is on food assistance by Classic_Jon2007-10-22 11:27:11
                                I've known other people who CAN'T feed their by SnArL2007-10-22 12:25:00
                                Are they on the Lone star card or do they get $ ? by Classic_Jon2007-10-22 12:34:20
                                These people were in Phoenix by SnArL2007-10-22 13:16:56
                                Ahh, yes, My sister used to teach there... by Classic_Jon2007-10-22 15:13:24
                                Nope, by lheggland2007-10-22 11:34:13
                                Most welfare folk aren't the problem by subbywan2007-10-22 11:41:01
                                Yup by SnArL2007-10-22 11:55:31
                          No. Just not naive. See DR's posting. (n/t) by subbywan2007-10-22 10:31:22
                Yes, by dodrian2007-10-22 09:34:20
                Yes. Don't you want lower taxes? by SlyW2007-10-22 09:37:00
                  And funny how Ireland's been growing. by esbita2007-10-22 09:39:06
                  Because I really enjoy by Didactylos2007-10-22 09:44:54
                    And what is the incentive to improve the system? ( (n/t) by SlyW2007-10-22 09:49:31
                      Lower taxes, better quality services. by Didactylos2007-10-22 09:58:56
                        The only problem with that is that politicians by Classic_Jon2007-10-22 10:04:43
                        In other words by DesertRat662007-10-22 10:04:57
                        A problem with politicians is, by dodrian2007-10-22 10:54:17
            no one in america is refused by tesla_koil2007-10-22 09:22:37

 

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