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Punishment question by Kickstart2007-10-08 10:42:45
  The lashes are more cruel and unusual. by Illiad2007-10-08 10:48:18
    Shouldn't a punishment BE C&U by definition by subbywan2007-10-08 10:53:59
      the waste of years of your life that you'll not by joresgump2007-10-08 11:01:05
        You're talking about Americans ... by subbywan2007-10-08 11:11:57
          I don't believe there's any difference by joresgump2007-10-08 11:15:26
            Humans differ *vastly* by subbywan2007-10-08 11:17:33
              not in the way you must treat them by joresgump2007-10-08 11:31:47
                How are they equal? (n/t) by CynicalRyan2007-10-08 11:33:26
                  legally. (n/t) by subbywan2007-10-08 11:34:21
                    No, they aren't. by CynicalRyan2007-10-08 11:38:04
                      arbitrary numbers. by subbywan2007-10-08 11:51:10
                        Either we treat people fairly, or equally. by CynicalRyan2007-10-08 11:55:49
                          you can't have a perfectly personalized treatment by joresgump2007-10-08 11:59:43
                            Nope, it isn't, since fairness requires by CynicalRyan2007-10-08 12:02:03
                              of course by joresgump2007-10-08 12:06:41
                                Eeeehhh... by CynicalRyan2007-10-08 12:14:12
                                collective knowledge by joresgump 2007-10-08 12:24:03
great ideas comes from the thinking of many, many, many men and women. They're shortcuts. They shouldn't be accepted as true, but they help to advance.

The distincion between a reason and an excuse is that one is that in one you think you're right and the other you think you're wrong, but you do it anyway.

And we're trying to be better persons using the ideas. An increasing knowledge help us to face other problems that were not adressed before 'cause there were bigger problems at hand. Example: do you discuss slavery? That's pretty much solved. Now we're discussing imprisonment.
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                                Everytime somebody has harped collective by CynicalRyan2007-10-08 13:31:58

 

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