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any other americans find HR 418 as scary as I do? (n/t) by tesla_koil2007-08-08 11:05:15
  In a brief look at it it does have a lot of good by classic_jon2007-08-08 11:17:43
    I took a very quick skim of the bill by voxwoman 2007-08-08 11:34:16
and it also seems as if there is also no recourse in the courts regarding the actions of Homeland Security which seems to be given almost carte blanche in what it can do to "secure the borders".
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      Right, I would be more comfortable with some kind by classic_jon2007-08-08 11:40:55
        this is the specific bit that disturbs me: by voxwoman2007-08-08 11:44:19
          It seems to grant an awful lot of power by voxwoman2007-08-08 11:46:06
          OK I can see your point. by DesertRat662007-08-08 11:53:21
            I wouldn't know, as my personal dealings by voxwoman2007-08-08 12:04:59
              afaik by gibuu2007-08-08 12:09:12
                Yes, you have it right by DesertRat662007-08-08 12:13:25
              Lower courts can toss laws on Constitutional Groun by DesertRat662007-08-08 12:11:32
                Addendum by DesertRat662007-08-08 14:03:29
                  On the other hand, doesn't a ruling about by Phoon2007-08-08 14:07:31
                    Not officially by DesertRat662007-08-08 14:23:55
                    Only an advisory precedent, it wouldn't be binding (n/t) by imperito2007-08-08 14:24:36

 

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