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Attn: Subbywan by Allandaros2007-07-29 10:54:03
  People hold guns to be this magic device by subbywan2007-07-29 11:23:47
    Guns raise the stakes. by Didactylos2007-07-29 11:33:38
      not really. by subbywan2007-07-29 11:37:43
        What else are they designed for? by Didactylos2007-07-29 12:08:23
          Guns were designed for a variety of reasons by subbywan2007-07-29 12:39:24
            Show me a gun designed to prevent killing. by Didactylos2007-07-29 12:49:01
              Wait ... it's about *your* choice? by subbywan2007-07-29 12:55:20
                So many red herrings! by Didactylos2007-07-29 13:07:18
                  *grins* by subbywan2007-07-29 13:14:07
                    One failure to reason by Didactylos2007-07-29 13:28:37
                      Sorry, but wrong. by CynicalRyan 2007-07-29 13:43:14
a) airguns and work after the principle behind all types of guns (the word "gun" the word "airgun" contains being a hint).

b) (as in regard to reasoning), you have yet to answer these questions:
  • And how is the non-lethal application dependent on skill and chance?
  • Are guns built to aim for the deadly target areas when used even by untrained users?
  • How guns raise states in a fight?
  • How the dynamics of a fight differ when a gun is involved.
  • How the XERP round fits with the claim, guns are designed to kill.
And as you have said yourself, both subbywan and I contest your definition, and were able to bring up arguments that contradict *your* definition, while stying within our definition of gun: A device propelling a slug through a hollow part by exploiting a pressure difference.
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