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Attn: Subbywan | by Allandaros | 2007-07-29 10:54:03 |
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People hold guns to be this magic device | by subbywan | 2007-07-29 11:23:47 |
| Guns raise the stakes. |
by Didactylos |
2007-07-29 11:33:38 |
A fist fight is unlikely to kill anyone outright. A knife fight can be fatal, but the dynamics are different to a gunfight.
No matter how loudly you claim guns are for defense, what you mean is "I can kill you first".
Guns are not merely tools. They are tools designed solely for killing things. Claiming otherwise is unbelievably naive. |
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not really. | by subbywan | 2007-07-29 11:37:43 |
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What else are they designed for? | by Didactylos | 2007-07-29 12:08:23 |
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Airguns aren't designed to kill. | by CynicalRyan | 2007-07-29 12:14:01 |
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Now you're being silly. | by Didactylos | 2007-07-29 12:41:21 |
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They aren't? The only difference is how the | by CynicalRyan | 2007-07-29 12:49:31 |
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Sorry, I'm not going to | by Didactylos | 2007-07-29 12:58:06 |
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How are my questions only relevant | by CynicalRyan | 2007-07-29 13:05:33 |
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They are guns and have a riffled barrel. | by joecrouse | 2007-07-29 15:47:08 |
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Guns were designed for a variety of reasons | by subbywan | 2007-07-29 12:39:24 |
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Strictly speaking, guns are designed | by subbywan | 2007-07-29 12:43:14 |
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Everything | by Didactylos | 2007-07-29 12:55:12 |
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Your post in a nutshell: | by CynicalRyan | 2007-07-29 12:57:29 |
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I wonder if this means we can discount TNT | by subbywan | 2007-07-29 12:58:41 |
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We can. | by CynicalRyan | 2007-07-29 13:02:58 |
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Okay, if you don't want to debate | by Didactylos | 2007-07-29 13:09:32 |
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Yes, it is | by subbywan | 2007-07-29 13:14:46 |
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Nice. | by CynicalRyan | 2007-07-29 13:15:17 |
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That is an incorrect assumption on your part | by subbywan | 2007-07-29 12:57:43 |
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and then we explore the fringe cases | by robertltux | 2007-07-29 17:53:33 |
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Show me a gun designed to prevent killing. | by Didactylos | 2007-07-29 12:49:01 |
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Wait ... it's about *your* choice? | by subbywan | 2007-07-29 12:55:20 |
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So many red herrings! | by Didactylos | 2007-07-29 13:07:18 |
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Post hoc, ergo propter hoc. | by CynicalRyan | 2007-07-29 13:13:02 |
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Wait, what? What have you been smoking? (n/t) | by krikkert | 2007-07-29 13:13:59 |
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*grins* | by subbywan | 2007-07-29 13:14:07 |
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One failure to reason | by Didactylos | 2007-07-29 13:28:37 |
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Then you are incredibly naive | by subbywan | 2007-07-29 13:36:23 |
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You don't see the point. | by Didactylos | 2007-07-29 13:52:34 |
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There is no contrast there | by subbywan | 2007-07-29 13:58:07 |
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I believe I have made my point. | by Didactylos | 2007-07-29 14:02:40 |
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You have. Post hoc, ergo propter hoc FTW! (n/t) | by subbywan | 2007-07-29 14:04:43 |
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Hasn't. | by CynicalRyan | 2007-07-29 14:08:58 |
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Yeah, but you can still kill with it | by subbywan | 2007-07-29 14:23:02 |
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Ah, dang. | by CynicalRyan | 2007-07-29 14:27:45 |
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Sorry, but wrong. | by CynicalRyan | 2007-07-29 13:43:14 |
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Cold war worked out VERY well (seeing as | by joecrouse | 2007-07-29 15:48:46 |
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How do guns do raise the stakes? | by CynicalRyan | 2007-07-29 11:50:21 |
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I disagree with this | by Stuka | 2007-07-29 13:16:29 |
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Please do. | by Didactylos | 2007-07-29 13:18:57 |
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How about this? | by subbywan | 2007-07-29 13:31:45 |
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Doesn't include fatalities. | by Didactylos | 2007-07-29 13:41:16 |
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Then you're arguing the wrong argument. | by subbywan | 2007-07-29 13:49:43 |
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Well, it certainly won't support my argument... | by Stuka | 2007-07-29 16:41:26 |
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Gun shots are far far less fatal than stabings | by joecrouse | 2007-07-29 15:45:45 |