| Attn: Subbywan |
by Allandaros |
2007-07-29 10:54:03 |
A few days ago, you wrote:
"Violence is always easy. I could probably do more damage to you with the contents of my pockets than with a firearm. The assumption that guns make violence easier is a very poor assumption based on unsupported theory and biases."
Can you elaborate on this assumption? Because by my way of thinking, it's a lot easier to stand at a distance and pull the trigger on a gun than it is to get up close to someone and knife/punch/garrotte/noogie them.
So why wouldn't a gun make violence easier? |
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Training, for example. | by CynicalRyan | 2007-07-29 11:09:37 |
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People hold guns to be this magic device | by subbywan | 2007-07-29 11:23:47 |
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Guns raise the stakes. | by Didactylos | 2007-07-29 11:33:38 |
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not really. | by subbywan | 2007-07-29 11:37:43 |
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What else are they designed for? | by Didactylos | 2007-07-29 12:08:23 |
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Airguns aren't designed to kill. | by CynicalRyan | 2007-07-29 12:14:01 |
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Now you're being silly. | by Didactylos | 2007-07-29 12:41:21 |
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They aren't? The only difference is how the | by CynicalRyan | 2007-07-29 12:49:31 |
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Sorry, I'm not going to | by Didactylos | 2007-07-29 12:58:06 |
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How are my questions only relevant | by CynicalRyan | 2007-07-29 13:05:33 |
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They are guns and have a riffled barrel. | by joecrouse | 2007-07-29 15:47:08 |
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Guns were designed for a variety of reasons | by subbywan | 2007-07-29 12:39:24 |
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Strictly speaking, guns are designed | by subbywan | 2007-07-29 12:43:14 |
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Everything | by Didactylos | 2007-07-29 12:55:12 |
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Your post in a nutshell: | by CynicalRyan | 2007-07-29 12:57:29 |
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I wonder if this means we can discount TNT | by subbywan | 2007-07-29 12:58:41 |
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We can. | by CynicalRyan | 2007-07-29 13:02:58 |
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Okay, if you don't want to debate | by Didactylos | 2007-07-29 13:09:32 |
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Yes, it is | by subbywan | 2007-07-29 13:14:46 |
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Nice. | by CynicalRyan | 2007-07-29 13:15:17 |
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That is an incorrect assumption on your part | by subbywan | 2007-07-29 12:57:43 |
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and then we explore the fringe cases | by robertltux | 2007-07-29 17:53:33 |
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Show me a gun designed to prevent killing. | by Didactylos | 2007-07-29 12:49:01 |
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Wait ... it's about *your* choice? | by subbywan | 2007-07-29 12:55:20 |
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So many red herrings! | by Didactylos | 2007-07-29 13:07:18 |
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Post hoc, ergo propter hoc. | by CynicalRyan | 2007-07-29 13:13:02 |
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Wait, what? What have you been smoking? (n/t) | by krikkert | 2007-07-29 13:13:59 |
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*grins* | by subbywan | 2007-07-29 13:14:07 |
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One failure to reason | by Didactylos | 2007-07-29 13:28:37 |
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Then you are incredibly naive | by subbywan | 2007-07-29 13:36:23 |
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You don't see the point. | by Didactylos | 2007-07-29 13:52:34 |
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There is no contrast there | by subbywan | 2007-07-29 13:58:07 |
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I believe I have made my point. | by Didactylos | 2007-07-29 14:02:40 |
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You have. Post hoc, ergo propter hoc FTW! (n/t) | by subbywan | 2007-07-29 14:04:43 |
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Hasn't. | by CynicalRyan | 2007-07-29 14:08:58 |
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Yeah, but you can still kill with it | by subbywan | 2007-07-29 14:23:02 |
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Ah, dang. | by CynicalRyan | 2007-07-29 14:27:45 |
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Sorry, but wrong. | by CynicalRyan | 2007-07-29 13:43:14 |
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Cold war worked out VERY well (seeing as | by joecrouse | 2007-07-29 15:48:46 |
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How do guns do raise the stakes? | by CynicalRyan | 2007-07-29 11:50:21 |
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I disagree with this | by Stuka | 2007-07-29 13:16:29 |
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Please do. | by Didactylos | 2007-07-29 13:18:57 |
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How about this? | by subbywan | 2007-07-29 13:31:45 |
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Doesn't include fatalities. | by Didactylos | 2007-07-29 13:41:16 |
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Then you're arguing the wrong argument. | by subbywan | 2007-07-29 13:49:43 |
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Well, it certainly won't support my argument... | by Stuka | 2007-07-29 16:41:26 |
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Gun shots are far far less fatal than stabings | by joecrouse | 2007-07-29 15:45:45 |
