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<Deleted><Deleted>2007-07-10 16:17:38
  I'm sorry...did you FAIL statistics? by SnArL2007-07-10 15:25:47
    I don't think Arachnid claimed this to be by Peace_man2007-07-10 15:27:32
      50 out of 10 thousands? (n/t) by CynicalRyan2007-07-10 15:30:19
        Ooh! Didyouknow didyouknow didyouknow! by Esteis 2007-07-10 16:05:57
The validity is independent of the population size!

Let's see what kind of difference we can detect, actually.

Let's say we make a 9-point scale from -4 to +4:
-4 is kind, 0 is neutral, +4 is brutal. (So it rhymes. Sue me.) The standard error will be equal to
s / sqrt(n) =~= s / 7

Now, we want to see what magnitude of difference we can detect. We're only concerned with detecting brutality, so we'll do a one-sided test: at 49 df, that's
1.7 * s / 7 ,
but we have to guess s. (If we had the data, we'd estimate it from there, natch.)

Let's guesstimate the standard deviation s to be 1.5, so that about 95 % will fall between -3 and +3. Sounds reasonable, no?

Then the minimal difference that we can detect, the null hypothesis being mean <= 0:

1.7 * 1.5 / 7 = 0.4

That's not such bad power, is it now? It'd be quite good at detecting any tendencies towards the brutal. And before you start thinking that it's too sensitive, remember that there's a lot of kind soldiers out there, too.

* * *

I just realised that that test is not quite appropriate. Better, perhaps, to treat kind/brutal as dichotomous, and determine whether the number of brutal ones is 'acceptably small' . . . perhaps counting the number of incidences of evil, and a Poisson distribution. Or perhaps use an F-test on the ratio good/evil. Hmm. Anyway, you get my point --- 50 is not bad at all, though 100 would be better.
[ Reply ]
          Nice. by CynicalRyan2007-07-10 16:10:28
            Summary: 50 is a large enough sample. by Esteis2007-07-10 16:19:09
              Yes, I understood that. by CynicalRyan2007-07-10 16:22:04
                :-) I'm sure others will cast a critical eye on it (n/t) by Esteis2007-07-10 16:23:09
          Owww, horrid memories of sophomore year! by esbita2007-07-10 17:40:32
            That, and it's not the most clearly-written by Esteis2007-07-10 17:49:43
              Yeah, but this is hardly a random sample. by esbita2007-07-10 19:18:03

 

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