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Thyestean feast in Iraq? by DesertRat662007-07-10 07:23:48
  How DARE we ignore all this by by hadji2007-07-10 07:33:05
    Don't get the news much? (n/t) by DesertRat66 2007-07-10 07:34:48
[ Reply ]
      Don't clarify your points much? (n/t) by hadji2007-07-10 07:36:30
        Nevermind, it's not worth it. by hadji2007-07-10 07:43:01
          I figured you at least skimmed headlines by DesertRat662007-07-10 08:25:01
            That post is useless. by hadji2007-07-10 08:36:21
              Am thinking the "absolute silence..." by esbita2007-07-10 09:33:08
                General rule of debating: by AndyA2007-07-10 09:36:52
                  Another general rule of debating: by esbita2007-07-10 09:41:46
                Did not read the link. by hadji2007-07-10 09:47:01
                  How is it not specific? by DesertRat662007-07-10 09:50:05
                    I am, in fact, hearing quite a lot about it. by hadji2007-07-10 09:56:17
                  If you won't read the link, don't debate. by esbita2007-07-10 09:54:38
                    You're right. by hadji2007-07-10 10:04:09
                      PFB. (n/t) by CynicalRyan2007-07-10 10:06:55
                        Yes, and now it really is time for me to go. (n/t) by hadji2007-07-10 10:07:50
                The article says by jeff_uk2007-07-10 09:52:05
                  Not that hadji would've known. by esbita2007-07-10 10:02:57
                    Gawd. Now *I'm* being ambiguous. by esbita2007-07-10 10:04:07
                    Yes he could, DR66 quoted that part here..... (n/t) by jeff_uk2007-07-10 10:05:00
                      But no, that's not what DR meant. by hadji2007-07-10 10:06:59
                      Quoted what, where? (n/t) by esbita2007-07-10 10:09:01
                        In the TLP by hadji2007-07-10 10:21:18
                          Read the article. by CynicalRyan2007-07-10 10:31:47
                            But the claim of 'absolute silence' was general, by jeff_uk2007-07-10 10:32:52
                              It puts the quotes into the approproate by CynicalRyan2007-07-10 10:36:41
                          Nice cherry-picking. by esbita2007-07-10 10:32:52
                            There are times when cherry-picking is valid. by hadji2007-07-10 11:33:42
                              Did you apply your skills of scrutiny by CynicalRyan2007-07-10 12:23:37
                                My agenda is to argue the following points. by hadji2007-07-10 12:39:17
                                So, you are after DR66, and not after the article by CynicalRyan2007-07-10 12:43:40
                                To be more precise, I'm after the TLP. by hadji2007-07-10 12:50:08
                                You didn't even read the article you criticize. by CynicalRyan2007-07-10 12:56:48
                                I've read both, and I've replied accordingly. (n/t by hadji2007-07-10 13:10:25
                              Hardly. Without reading the context... by esbita2007-07-10 12:26:21
                                Evening news has a duty to gather ratings. by hadji2007-07-10 12:31:42
                                Will you read the article? by CynicalRyan2007-07-10 12:35:00
                                If a scrap of rhetorical license by esbita2007-07-10 12:41:59
                                Chalk it up as you please. by hadji2007-07-10 12:46:41
                                And what, pray tell, are you teaching here? by CynicalRyan2007-07-10 12:51:54
                                I've read the articles, and I've seen nothing by hadji2007-07-10 13:04:26
                                Oh, and I'm constantly hearing that by hadji2007-07-10 13:09:32
                                To put it as politely as I can: by CynicalRyan2007-07-10 15:04:06
                                Ecellent. Thank you. (n/t) by hadji2007-07-10 15:05:31
                                *ahem* So now, I've read the article. by hadji2007-07-10 13:43:21
                                Others targeted that already. by CynicalRyan2007-07-10 14:01:08
                                I never saw a valid argument against me. by hadji2007-07-10 14:09:27
                                See here. by CynicalRyan2007-07-10 14:17:09
                                Your concession is accepted. (n/t) by hadji2007-07-10 14:25:11
                                Concession? by CynicalRyan2007-07-10 14:40:50
                                See here. by hadji2007-07-10 14:44:06
                                Ah, the latter part. (n/t) by CynicalRyan2007-07-10 14:58:09
                                And have I mentioned that the scrap of by hadji2007-07-10 13:22:11
                                Is there reason to believe that possibly by Peace_man2007-07-10 13:01:15
                                If you look back a few days by DesertRat662007-07-10 13:09:32
                                And in the article states that someone by Peace_man2007-07-10 13:15:02
                                More the general by DesertRat662007-07-10 13:25:45
                                I hear quite a bit about the atrocities by hadji2007-07-10 13:32:24
                                Where from by DesertRat662007-07-10 13:38:22
                                Various sources, but primarily NPR. by hadji2007-07-10 13:58:29
                                You make a perfect counter example by DesertRat662007-07-10 14:17:07
                                I would not dispute the claim of by hadji2007-07-10 14:23:29
                                It is also no new revelation that mainstream by hadji2007-07-10 14:32:56
                                It's also not a new one that by DesertRat662007-07-10 14:50:51
                                "While there may not be 'Absolute Silence' . . ." by hadji2007-07-10 14:54:46
                                You seem to have an unhealthy fascination by Peace_man2007-07-10 13:54:32
                                Having seen what extremists can do up close and by DesertRat662007-07-10 14:03:33
                                Now, that's actually the sorta response I'm lookin by esbita2007-07-10 13:22:49
                                What you seem to be missing is that the summary by hadji2007-07-10 13:29:50
                                You couldn't have "known" that at the time by esbita2007-07-10 13:41:06
                                It was a reasonable guess. And it was right. (n/t by hadji2007-07-10 13:47:51
                                But you might not have been right! and arguing by jeff_uk2007-07-10 14:01:35
                                Kinda like Bush invading Iraq in the first place, by hadji2007-07-10 14:06:24
            The question that maybe needs to be asked is, by Peace_man2007-07-10 08:43:02
              That is either an excellent idea or a catastrophic by hadji2007-07-10 08:48:09
                Given the tensions that are there already: by CynicalRyan2007-07-10 08:51:15
                A gun is the equalizer. by Peace_man2007-07-10 08:53:10
                  Nice. Except a gun, and working as a cohesive, by CynicalRyan2007-07-10 08:57:53
                  "Never give a man a gun unless you know by hadji2007-07-10 08:58:10
                    A very valid point. (n/t) by Classic_jon2007-07-10 08:59:07
                    Hmm. I find myself in very unfamiliar territory by Peace_man2007-07-10 09:10:42
                      I doubt you'll get backup here. by CynicalRyan2007-07-10 09:14:29
                        Well, of course not! by Peace_man2007-07-10 09:17:18
                          How do you know that civilian X by CynicalRyan2007-07-10 09:20:04
                            Contact local tribal leaders in order to by Peace_man2007-07-10 09:36:24
                              I don't have to show why "my" way is better by CynicalRyan2007-07-10 09:44:01
                                By saying that what I propose is bad by Peace_man2007-07-10 09:52:43
                                Where did I assert that doing nothing is better? by CynicalRyan2007-07-10 09:57:49
                                PFB. Now go away or I will taunt you again! (n/t) by Peace_man2007-07-10 10:06:21
                                Hm, rabbit stew tonight.. (n/t) by CynicalRyan2007-07-10 10:12:59
                          The problem is, how do you differentiate between by hadji2007-07-10 09:27:53
                            Stop giving me my favourite arguments back! by Peace_man2007-07-10 09:44:29
                              Or it would just result in the bloodiest by CynicalRyan2007-07-10 09:47:26
                                Actually, sunnis and shiites used to get along. by Peace_man2007-07-10 09:59:39
                                Ya, they get along. by lheggland2007-07-10 10:28:53
                                Read much? by Peace_man2007-07-10 10:41:08
                                In Iraq? by lheggland2007-07-10 10:58:35
                                That reply does not indicate any by Peace_man2007-07-10 11:17:56
                                I did read them. by lheggland2007-07-10 11:27:15
                                I choose to read the articles I linked to. by Peace_man2007-07-10 12:06:37
                            You don't by DesertRat662007-07-10 09:47:11
                      The point is moot by DesertRat662007-07-10 09:19:01
              What is so bad about them viewing the by Classic_jon2007-07-10 08:57:30
                Most households in Iraq are already armed by DesertRat662007-07-10 09:03:38
                Being seen as just another tribe does not by Peace_man2007-07-10 09:08:12
                  I think you are bypassing the meat of the point by Classic_jon2007-07-10 09:19:06
                    If anything, it shows that the troops by CynicalRyan2007-07-10 09:22:59
                    How accepted can they be, really? by Peace_man2007-07-10 09:31:05
                      How do you know that the acceptance by CynicalRyan2007-07-10 09:35:12
                        His story is very well known. by Peace_man2007-07-10 09:37:41
                          Yes, it is unusual to get all the Arabian tribes by CynicalRyan2007-07-10 09:45:26
                      You are seeing part of what the point is by Classic_jon2007-07-10 09:46:25
                        That is a good description of another way by Peace_man2007-07-10 10:03:11

 

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