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How taxes work. by subbywan2007-07-03 16:24:23
  The dichotomy I would like to see resolved WRT tax by romandas2007-07-03 17:30:32
    How are you 'punishing' the wealthy? by Arachnid2007-07-03 17:33:56
      Taxing someone higher than someone else by romandas2007-07-03 17:43:14
        Flat tax punishes the poor. by Phoon 2007-07-03 17:59:10
If you earn $10,000 per year (about what my mom was making while I was growing up, including child support), 20% of that is only $2,000... but that $2,000 would have gone to health care or transportation.

If you earn $100,000 per year, 20% is $20,000... but that $20,000 is entirely disposable.

That's why the distinction between tax on income and tax on *disposable* income is important. It's fair to tax a flat amount of the disposable income. Taxing a flat amount of gross income puts a disproportionate burden on the poor. (The poor often have little to no disposable income at all.)
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          Right, but I don't believe our current system by romandas2007-07-03 18:06:34
          So raise the standard deduction amount. by esbita2007-07-03 18:21:39
            The last part of your statment is what I was by techi8702007-07-03 18:49:21
              All that says is that many people are self-serving by Arachnid2007-07-03 19:09:05
                Welcome to reality and human nature. by esbita2007-07-03 19:54:19
                  And how would we do that? by Arachnid2007-07-03 20:00:56
                    but then you've just proven the point ... by subbywan2007-07-03 20:02:42
                      And what point is that? by Arachnid2007-07-03 20:06:57
                        but people ARE self-serving. by subbywan2007-07-03 20:08:26
                          So? by Arachnid2007-07-03 20:26:48
                            Nope, it's a fool's game and accomplishes nothing. by esbita2007-07-03 20:49:40
                              That's what I meant. (n/t) by Arachnid2007-07-03 20:56:56
                            That's what the TLP is doing: by subbywan2007-07-03 21:02:37
                              Except that what started the whole argument... by Arachnid2007-07-03 21:13:07
                                Ahem. by esbita2007-07-03 21:20:18
                                It's a *simple* analogy by subbywan2007-07-03 21:20:23
                                Just because it's simple doesn't mean it has to be by Arachnid2007-07-03 21:28:21
                                so you're complaining about poor math skills? by subbywan2007-07-03 21:37:42
                                When it invalidates the analogy, yes. (n/t) by Arachnid2007-07-03 21:50:59
                                agreed. But in this case, it doesn't. (n/t) by subbywan2007-07-03 22:47:15
                    Low tax, flate rate, no loopholes. by esbita2007-07-03 20:18:00

 

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