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GWB reaches new lows. by Peace_man2007-07-03 10:39:27
  No big deal. by VivianC 2007-07-03 10:51:21
He still has to pay his $250,000 fine and serve 2 years of probation. That is closer to what a regular person gets for perjury. Of course, you'd still need to find a case where there was perjury where no other crime was committed.

And since you are not American, I'll take this time to give you a quick primer on how this thing works:
First, I want to make some general comments about pardons and commutations of sentences. Article II of the Constitution gives the president broad and unreviewable power to grant "Reprieves and Pardons" for all offenses against the United States. The Supreme Court has ruled that the pardon power is granted "[t]o the [president] . . ., and it is granted without limit" (United States v. Klein). Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes declared that "[a] pardon . . . is . . . the determination of the ultimate authority that the public welfare will be better served by [the pardon] . . ." (Biddle v. Perovich). A president may conclude a pardon or commutation is warranted for several reasons: the desire to restore full citizenship rights, including voting, to people who have served their sentences and lived within the law since; a belief that a sentence was excessive or unjust; personal circumstances that warrant compassion; or other unique circumstances.

The exercise of executive clemency is inherently controversial. The reason the framers of our Constitution vested this broad power in the Executive Branch was to assure that the president would have the freedom to do what he deemed to be the right thing, regardless of how unpopular a decision might be. Some of the uses of the power have been extremely controversial, such as President Washington's pardons of leaders of the Whiskey Rebellion, President Harding's commutation of the sentence of Eugene Debs, President Nixon's commutation of the sentence of James Hoffa, President Ford's pardon of former President Nixon, President Carter's pardon of Vietnam War draft resisters, and President Bush's 1992 pardon of six Iran-contra defendants, including former Defense Secretary Weinberger, which assured the end of that investigation.

The (disbarred) lawyer who wrote this also didn't serve a day for his perjury: William Jefferson Clinton (he paid a $25,000 fine and was disbarred in a deal to avoid a perjury charge). This is the man who gave pardons and commutations to drug dealers (including his brother), campaign donors, child molesters and a group of convicted FALN terrorists.

So as far as "new lows", it may be a new low for Bush, but it doesn't come close the the pardon and commutation lows set by previous administrations.
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    Just keep one thing in mind re: Clinton/Libby - by subbywan2007-07-03 11:03:58
      Contempt for by DesertRat662007-07-03 11:17:47
    So you're equating by SoylentGreen2007-07-03 11:14:27
      Lying under oath is lying under oath. by lheggland2007-07-03 11:25:27
        One was only accused of it, the other convicted (n (n/t) by subbywan2007-07-03 11:27:19
          No both were convicted by DesertRat662007-07-03 11:29:46
    A small point. by kelli2172007-07-03 11:16:43
      Very well then we'll just say that by DesertRat662007-07-03 11:25:43
        No .. he was accused of that. by subbywan2007-07-03 11:28:21
          Ummm by DesertRat662007-07-03 11:31:15
            Then you're comparing apples to oranges (n/t) by subbywan2007-07-03 11:31:57
              They're both convictions by DesertRat662007-07-03 11:32:47
                Yes, but it's like saying by subbywan2007-07-03 11:34:44
                  Which I didn't do by DesertRat662007-07-03 11:46:06
                    And it wasn't any court. by RetiQlum22007-07-03 12:09:57
                      I thought I read by MatthewDBA2007-07-03 12:10:46
                        No by DesertRat662007-07-03 12:12:12
                          Ouch. by MatthewDBA2007-07-03 12:15:27
                          Bwuhahahaha! by RetiQlum22007-07-03 12:28:22
                      No he wasn't. by kelli2172007-07-03 15:42:17
                    Yes, you did. by subbywan2007-07-03 13:25:11
                      You might as well save your time. by Peace_man2007-07-03 13:34:03
                        I'm not after him to admit anything. by subbywan2007-07-03 13:51:39
                          Ah, OK. Good luck with that. by Peace_man2007-07-03 14:01:03
                      OK now how did I equate them? by DesertRat662007-07-03 14:22:10
                        Because the convictions are not the same by subbywan2007-07-03 14:31:21
                          I think you're repeating me by DesertRat662007-07-03 17:49:17

 

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