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Nice thought for today by fitzso2007-07-03 02:20:52
  No, she didn't... she was made at the same time by jeff_uk2007-07-03 03:14:36
    Read on a bit further ... by ideur2007-07-03 04:18:43
      And in other places: by jaqie2007-07-03 04:24:08
        Some parts of the Bible are historical by MatthewDBA2007-07-03 04:40:21
          Fiction can have a basis in reality by jeff_uk2007-07-03 04:48:22
            True by MatthewDBA2007-07-03 05:00:08
              Let's go with the dictionary definition: by CynicalRyan2007-07-03 05:13:56
                I'd argue by MatthewDBA2007-07-03 05:24:12
                  Since the bible is the only real source on that: by CynicalRyan2007-07-03 05:30:29
                    How does applying Occam's Razor by MatthewDBA2007-07-03 05:37:34
                      There is no support that the Acts actually by CynicalRyan2007-07-03 05:48:17
                        Why does Occam's razor by MatthewDBA2007-07-03 06:13:58
                          Occam's razor: by CynicalRyan2007-07-03 06:28:39
                            All things being equal by MatthewDBA2007-07-03 06:31:45
                              There are no "clues" outside the Bible by divinar2007-07-03 06:51:23
                                Miracles, understood by MatthewDBA2007-07-03 07:03:25
                                "might". by CynicalRyan2007-07-03 07:24:44
                                We're not? by MatthewDBA2007-07-03 08:02:39
                                We have translations of his writings. by CynicalRyan2007-07-03 08:16:16
                                We *may* have translations by MatthewDBA2007-07-03 08:25:51
                                There are no contemporary records of Jesus by Bellator2007-07-03 08:34:24
                                Do we have contemporary records of Pythagoras? by MatthewDBA 2007-07-03 08:45:17
We do of Socrates, but Wikipedia doesn't show any of Pythagoras - the very earliest writings they specify a date for (Alexander Polyhistor) are about 600 years after the death of Pythagoras.

In fact, Wikipedia claims that no writings of his exist, although there are some forgeries under his name, and some texts written by people claiming to be his followers.

Texts about the life of Jesus, while they were indeed written after his death, appear to have appeared in writing between about 15 years and about 60 years after his death. At least, the ones that are coherent with each other. I'm aware of no accounts of Jesus dating from the mid-second century AD.

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