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Anybody here open to Tarot cards? by EnzoMatrix2007-07-03 01:29:06
  What force is supposed to act upon the cards? by jeff_uk2007-07-03 01:37:36
    Self interpretation. by EnzoMatrix2007-07-03 02:05:38
      So they're just dead organic matter? by jeff_uk2007-07-03 02:11:40
        And yet still... by EnzoMatrix2007-07-03 02:38:30
          For Enzo: a non-secular perspective by zeitnot2007-07-03 04:10:57
            IMO the definition of god by EnzoMatrix2007-07-03 04:57:11
              here's why. [again, non-secular perspective] by zeitnot2007-07-03 05:08:17
                He threw Adam and Eve out of Paradise. by CynicalRyan2007-07-03 05:21:12
                  Ten plagues, each one after the pharaoh refused to by toysbfun2007-07-03 05:27:41
                    Justified homicide and genocide, then. by CynicalRyan2007-07-03 05:38:34
                      It's "Thou shalt not murder". by toysbfun2007-07-03 05:55:16
                        If I were God, I'd have snapped my fingers by CynicalRyan2007-07-03 06:10:32
                          This gets into some pretty heavy concepts on by esbita2007-07-03 06:25:21
                            Teh concept of free will is lead ad absurdum by CynicalRyan2007-07-03 06:33:02
                              If you were God by MatthewDBA2007-07-03 06:37:34
                                I would've punished Pharaoh. by CynicalRyan2007-07-03 06:45:57
                                The overarching theme of Exodus... by esbita 2007-07-03 07:45:39
...is that people are stupid, stubborn, and prideful. God provided in the desert. People b5ed. God appeared on Mt. Sinai... when Moses lingered too long on the mountain, the people set up the Golden Calf, and started backsliding.

Do you really think God would have broken his covenant at that point? Moses brought it up in defending his people... it's a nice teaching device/reminder that Moses would have to bring it up in "defense." God remembers the covenant, WE forget it.

Remember also that a big point of wandering in the desert was so that the generation that remembered Egypt would live its life out and pass away first...so there'd be no more whining that living in slavery in Egypt had been "better."

In the Old Testament, people are shown as childish, and the Lord spanks. :P How is he to make a great nation out of sheeple? Faith is a journey, a responsibility, a discipline. It's not that God isn't merciful. It's that we're really, really stupid and lazy.
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                                That's the moral of the story, yes. by CynicalRyan2007-07-03 07:57:32
                                The Nile reeking of blood... by esbita2007-07-03 08:04:00
                                True. by CynicalRyan2007-07-03 08:20:47

 

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