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Anybody here open to Tarot cards? | by EnzoMatrix | 2007-07-03 01:29:06 |
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What force is supposed to act upon the cards? | by jeff_uk | 2007-07-03 01:37:36 |
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Self interpretation. | by EnzoMatrix | 2007-07-03 02:05:38 |
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So they're just dead organic matter? | by jeff_uk | 2007-07-03 02:11:40 |
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And yet still... | by EnzoMatrix | 2007-07-03 02:38:30 |
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For Enzo: a non-secular perspective | by zeitnot | 2007-07-03 04:10:57 |
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IMO the definition of god | by EnzoMatrix | 2007-07-03 04:57:11 |
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here's why. [again, non-secular perspective] | by zeitnot | 2007-07-03 05:08:17 |
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He threw Adam and Eve out of Paradise. | by CynicalRyan | 2007-07-03 05:21:12 |
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Ten plagues, each one after the pharaoh refused to | by toysbfun | 2007-07-03 05:27:41 |
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Justified homicide and genocide, then. | by CynicalRyan | 2007-07-03 05:38:34 |
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It's "Thou shalt not murder". | by toysbfun | 2007-07-03 05:55:16 |
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If I were God, I'd have snapped my fingers | by CynicalRyan | 2007-07-03 06:10:32 |
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by esbita |
2007-07-03 06:25:21 |
...free will.
I suggest you read Exodus again. Moses, like Abraham, hemmed and hawed with God a LOT in their conversation. Recall that God told Moses to ask Pharaoh first if they could go into the wilderness for three days to offer sacrifices to the Lord. The Lord KNEW at the time that Pharaoh would refuse.
The Lord is omniscient and knows what will happen, knows how a person will react...but by merely snapping His fingers and transporting the slaves to freedom, He does not allow Pharaoh the free choice to make (and screw up) on his own.
The Lord gave Pharaoh/Egypt several chances and signs, some of them "harmless" before unleashing the plagues. The Pharaoh was "hard of heart," stubborn. And there were seven days between the first plague and the second.
The Lord gives chances...but he does not tolerate a stiff neck very well. |
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Teh concept of free will is lead ad absurdum | by CynicalRyan | 2007-07-03 06:33:02 |
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If you were God | by MatthewDBA | 2007-07-03 06:37:34 |
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I would've punished Pharaoh. | by CynicalRyan | 2007-07-03 06:45:57 |
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To be nitpicky | by MatthewDBA | 2007-07-03 06:58:09 |
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No. | by CynicalRyan | 2007-07-03 07:07:56 |
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The overarching theme of Exodus... | by esbita | 2007-07-03 07:45:39 |
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That's the moral of the story, yes. | by CynicalRyan | 2007-07-03 07:57:32 |
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The Nile reeking of blood... | by esbita | 2007-07-03 08:04:00 |
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True. | by CynicalRyan | 2007-07-03 08:20:47 |
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Pharaoh and his officials... | by esbita | 2007-07-03 06:56:16 |
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Yes, but you can safely assume | by CynicalRyan | 2007-07-03 07:09:10 |
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You're making the mistake... | by esbita | 2007-07-03 07:36:33 |
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If free will should have any worth: | by CynicalRyan | 2007-07-03 07:43:15 |
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Again, judge by the standards of the time. | by esbita | 2007-07-03 07:58:02 |
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but the absence of individual rights and | by CynicalRyan | 2007-07-03 08:13:04 |
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But that would have prevented | by MatthewDBA | 2007-07-03 08:16:36 |
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Why? (n/t) | by CynicalRyan | 2007-07-03 08:21:19 |
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You can't have moral responsibility... | by esbita | 2007-07-03 08:26:08 |
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I see. | by CynicalRyan | 2007-07-03 08:36:39 |
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The others were only temporary. | by esbita | 2007-07-03 08:46:25 |
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It's probably the concept of "fear me, | by CynicalRyan | 2007-07-03 08:56:23 |
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Would you feel less uneasy | by MatthewDBA | 2007-07-03 09:08:40 |
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Yes. | by CynicalRyan | 2007-07-03 09:37:57 |
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start | by MatthewDBA | 2007-07-03 09:51:13 |
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Great! Thanks. :D (n/t) | by CynicalRyan | 2007-07-03 10:02:59 |
