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Anybody here open to Tarot cards? by EnzoMatrix2007-07-03 01:29:06
  What force is supposed to act upon the cards? by jeff_uk2007-07-03 01:37:36
    Self interpretation. by EnzoMatrix2007-07-03 02:05:38
      So they're just dead organic matter? by jeff_uk2007-07-03 02:11:40
        And yet still... by EnzoMatrix2007-07-03 02:38:30
          For Enzo: a non-secular perspective by zeitnot2007-07-03 04:10:57
            IMO the definition of god by EnzoMatrix2007-07-03 04:57:11
              here's why. [again, non-secular perspective] by zeitnot2007-07-03 05:08:17
                He threw Adam and Eve out of Paradise. by CynicalRyan2007-07-03 05:21:12
                  Ten plagues, each one after the pharaoh refused to by toysbfun2007-07-03 05:27:41
                    Justified homicide and genocide, then. by CynicalRyan2007-07-03 05:38:34
                      It's "Thou shalt not murder". by toysbfun2007-07-03 05:55:16
                        If I were God, I'd have snapped my fingers by CynicalRyan 2007-07-03 06:10:32
(purely for theatrical effect), and transported the Israelites to their intended destination. Would've saved the trouble with the Golden Calve altogether, too.

And while God can kill and restore life, He wants to be emulated (he created Man in His own image, after all), and as such, cannot arbitrarily kill people, or sentence a whole generation because a leader refused to follow Him.

The burning Bush involves God's demand that Abraham (or was it Moses? I forgot..) sacrifice his son (first-born, IIRC). The kicker is: He stopped this, and showed a capacity for mercy (after all, he wouldn't have had to intervene). This mercy has to extent to all human beings (again: created in his own image). As Jesus did when he walked the Earth.

In regard to slavery: Slaves were property. A commodity to be sold. They weren't people, since they could be killed at any time, and had no rights in any sense. The most modern approach to that had the Greek and the Romans in antiquity, where slaves did have some right (they could even earn money to buy their own freedom, if their owner allowed them to).
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                          With regard to your first sentence *only* by MatthewDBA2007-07-03 06:21:47
                            Who says I have to allow choice when I'm a god? (n (n/t) by CynicalRyan2007-07-03 06:44:01
                              What would be the point otherwise? (n/t) by EnzoMatrix2007-07-03 06:53:07
                                Why should there be a point? by CynicalRyan2007-07-03 07:11:32
                                Point well taken... by EnzoMatrix2007-07-03 07:19:52
                                Doesn't have to be boring, either. by CynicalRyan2007-07-03 07:23:12
                                Ref Constantine? :P (n/t) by EnzoMatrix2007-07-03 07:25:52
                                Only saw the movie. by CynicalRyan2007-07-03 07:27:37
                              If you're a god by MatthewDBA2007-07-03 07:05:30
                                All-loving isn't usually attributed to a god. by CynicalRyan2007-07-03 07:14:01
                                All-loving by MatthewDBA2007-07-03 07:32:51
                                Alas, this incarantion of God is not all-loving. by CynicalRyan2007-07-03 07:37:49
                          This gets into some pretty heavy concepts on by esbita2007-07-03 06:25:21
                            Teh concept of free will is lead ad absurdum by CynicalRyan2007-07-03 06:33:02
                              If you were God by MatthewDBA2007-07-03 06:37:34
                                I would've punished Pharaoh. by CynicalRyan2007-07-03 06:45:57
                                To be nitpicky by MatthewDBA2007-07-03 06:58:09
                                No. by CynicalRyan2007-07-03 07:07:56
                                The overarching theme of Exodus... by esbita2007-07-03 07:45:39
                                That's the moral of the story, yes. by CynicalRyan2007-07-03 07:57:32
                                The Nile reeking of blood... by esbita2007-07-03 08:04:00
                                True. by CynicalRyan2007-07-03 08:20:47
                              Pharaoh and his officials... by esbita2007-07-03 06:56:16
                                Yes, but you can safely assume by CynicalRyan2007-07-03 07:09:10
                                You're making the mistake... by esbita2007-07-03 07:36:33
                                If free will should have any worth: by CynicalRyan2007-07-03 07:43:15
                                Again, judge by the standards of the time. by esbita2007-07-03 07:58:02
                                but the absence of individual rights and by CynicalRyan2007-07-03 08:13:04
                                But that would have prevented by MatthewDBA2007-07-03 08:16:36
                                Why? (n/t) by CynicalRyan2007-07-03 08:21:19
                                You can't have moral responsibility... by esbita2007-07-03 08:26:08
                                I see. by CynicalRyan2007-07-03 08:36:39
                                The others were only temporary. by esbita2007-07-03 08:46:25
                                It's probably the concept of "fear me, by CynicalRyan2007-07-03 08:56:23
                                Would you feel less uneasy by MatthewDBA2007-07-03 09:08:40
                                Yes. by CynicalRyan2007-07-03 09:37:57
                                start by MatthewDBA2007-07-03 09:51:13
                                Great! Thanks. :D (n/t) by CynicalRyan2007-07-03 10:02:59
                          Other peoples lived in Palestine at the time. by toysbfun2007-07-03 06:36:31
                            Only History books. The Old Testament by CynicalRyan2007-07-03 06:52:10
                              Aside from Hammurabi by toysbfun2007-07-03 07:28:13
                                Yes, different translations don't make things by CynicalRyan2007-07-03 08:09:21
                                I thought I answered those. God only made Himself by toysbfun2007-07-03 10:48:40

 

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