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Anybody here open to Tarot cards? by EnzoMatrix2007-07-03 01:29:06
  What force is supposed to act upon the cards? by jeff_uk2007-07-03 01:37:36
    Self interpretation. by EnzoMatrix2007-07-03 02:05:38
      So they're just dead organic matter? by jeff_uk2007-07-03 02:11:40
        And yet still... by EnzoMatrix2007-07-03 02:38:30
          For Enzo: a non-secular perspective by zeitnot2007-07-03 04:10:57
            IMO the definition of god by EnzoMatrix2007-07-03 04:57:11
              here's why. [again, non-secular perspective] by zeitnot2007-07-03 05:08:17
                He threw Adam and Eve out of Paradise. by CynicalRyan2007-07-03 05:21:12
                  Ten plagues, each one after the pharaoh refused to by toysbfun2007-07-03 05:27:41
                    Justified homicide and genocide, then. by CynicalRyan 2007-07-03 05:38:34
Truly, a Being that can be glorified as "good", when one of its commandments (for the beings created in its own image) is "Thou shalt not kill".

Or to whom it is okay, to sell a daughter into slavery, or stone a person wearing different kinds of fabrics (see Leviticus). And either the Bible is the Word of God, and thus God is not a good person, or the Bible isn't the Word of God, and we are back at square one: What is God?

Besides, the Exodus showed that god didn't have to kill to get the Israelites out of Egypt. Or didn't have to have a human sacrifice (see Burning bush), or was able to feel mercy (since Jacob wasn't eaten by the lions), or that Jesus was sent to Earth as saviour of all mankind.

Makes God's acts even more horrible, IMO.
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                      It's "Thou shalt not murder". by toysbfun2007-07-03 05:55:16
                        If I were God, I'd have snapped my fingers by CynicalRyan2007-07-03 06:10:32
                          With regard to your first sentence *only* by MatthewDBA2007-07-03 06:21:47
                            Who says I have to allow choice when I'm a god? (n (n/t) by CynicalRyan2007-07-03 06:44:01
                              What would be the point otherwise? (n/t) by EnzoMatrix2007-07-03 06:53:07
                                Why should there be a point? by CynicalRyan2007-07-03 07:11:32
                                Point well taken... by EnzoMatrix2007-07-03 07:19:52
                                Doesn't have to be boring, either. by CynicalRyan2007-07-03 07:23:12
                                Ref Constantine? :P (n/t) by EnzoMatrix2007-07-03 07:25:52
                                Only saw the movie. by CynicalRyan2007-07-03 07:27:37
                              If you're a god by MatthewDBA2007-07-03 07:05:30
                                All-loving isn't usually attributed to a god. by CynicalRyan2007-07-03 07:14:01
                                All-loving by MatthewDBA2007-07-03 07:32:51
                                Alas, this incarantion of God is not all-loving. by CynicalRyan2007-07-03 07:37:49
                          This gets into some pretty heavy concepts on by esbita2007-07-03 06:25:21
                            Teh concept of free will is lead ad absurdum by CynicalRyan2007-07-03 06:33:02
                              If you were God by MatthewDBA2007-07-03 06:37:34
                                I would've punished Pharaoh. by CynicalRyan2007-07-03 06:45:57
                                To be nitpicky by MatthewDBA2007-07-03 06:58:09
                                No. by CynicalRyan2007-07-03 07:07:56
                                The overarching theme of Exodus... by esbita2007-07-03 07:45:39
                                That's the moral of the story, yes. by CynicalRyan2007-07-03 07:57:32
                                The Nile reeking of blood... by esbita2007-07-03 08:04:00
                                True. by CynicalRyan2007-07-03 08:20:47
                              Pharaoh and his officials... by esbita2007-07-03 06:56:16
                                Yes, but you can safely assume by CynicalRyan2007-07-03 07:09:10
                                You're making the mistake... by esbita2007-07-03 07:36:33
                                If free will should have any worth: by CynicalRyan2007-07-03 07:43:15
                                Again, judge by the standards of the time. by esbita2007-07-03 07:58:02
                                but the absence of individual rights and by CynicalRyan2007-07-03 08:13:04
                                But that would have prevented by MatthewDBA2007-07-03 08:16:36
                                Why? (n/t) by CynicalRyan2007-07-03 08:21:19
                                You can't have moral responsibility... by esbita2007-07-03 08:26:08
                                I see. by CynicalRyan2007-07-03 08:36:39
                                The others were only temporary. by esbita2007-07-03 08:46:25
                                It's probably the concept of "fear me, by CynicalRyan2007-07-03 08:56:23
                                Would you feel less uneasy by MatthewDBA2007-07-03 09:08:40
                                Yes. by CynicalRyan2007-07-03 09:37:57
                                start by MatthewDBA2007-07-03 09:51:13
                                Great! Thanks. :D (n/t) by CynicalRyan2007-07-03 10:02:59
                          Other peoples lived in Palestine at the time. by toysbfun2007-07-03 06:36:31
                            Only History books. The Old Testament by CynicalRyan2007-07-03 06:52:10
                              Aside from Hammurabi by toysbfun2007-07-03 07:28:13
                                Yes, different translations don't make things by CynicalRyan2007-07-03 08:09:21
                                I thought I answered those. God only made Himself by toysbfun2007-07-03 10:48:40

 

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