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Ordnance-Corner for UFies | by Ordnance_Corner | 2007-02-16 10:09:25 |
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Mass Slaughter in Our Public Schools. Part 2 | by DesertRat66 | 2007-02-16 10:15:12 |
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close but no cigar (somewhat long) | by lurker69 | 2007-02-16 15:00:47 |
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*Sigh* | by DesertRat66 | 2007-02-16 15:49:32 |
| Well, I'm not totally against weapons |
by lurker69 |
2007-02-16 17:10:34 |
(my tagging "liberal pacifist" in the last post was more... ironic) but I prefer to live in an area where I don't need firearms (as a private person). And I still consider >99.9% of Germany as such a an area.
You have the advantage of quoting many sources (I value you for being able to do so; if only these were not so often tendentious), I draw most of my knowledge about Beslan from German media, and especially the "Spiegel" (in the meantime a rather neutral weekly magazine; spearhead of German's investigative journalism). As such I repeat: the terrorists at Beslan might be Islamic or not, their 1st intention was NOT to do really bad things along side the world-wide terror that President Bush (and many others) is so fiercly figthing against but the Russia-internal problem Russia vs. an independent Chechnia.
This still does not rule out that other terrorists could "copycat".
Next: despite your (correct) argueing of falling rate of accidents with raising gun ownership at the same time there still ARE accidents, real ones and the ones I implied ("I did it by accident" and "He acted like a terrorist"). So it's STILL more probable than being "mass slaughtered by terrorists taking a school as hostage".
Yes, I forgot Columbine High (you won't say the offenders were terrorist, will you?) and in deed we've had this on a smaller scale in Germany too (2 years ago), so I finally agree the proposal of having a few(!) teachers running around on campus with conceiled weapons HAS a certain appeal even though it does not appeal to me.
But every inch around that single idea (in the story you posted) is (and now I quote myself)
'...like a big, scraping, soggy blanket, some people pull over us to convince the Public Opinion that a major threat is going to come over us and kick us in the groin; just in order to press ahead with the proliferation of firearms to the common man and removing our freedom and democratic rights in exchange for more security for "us" and conincidentally more power for "them".'
Kudos for the tactic of appealing to denial, as in deed people tend to deny uncomfortable truths (like.... US government/republicans and climate change). :-)
Lurker "I wanna discuss, not troll" 69 |
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One thing above really stands out | by DesertRat66 | 2007-02-16 18:32:45 |
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