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Ordnance-Corner for UFies | by Ordnance_Corner | 2007-02-16 10:09:25 |
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Mass Slaughter in Our Public Schools. Part 2 | by DesertRat66 | 2007-02-16 10:15:12 |
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close but no cigar (somewhat long) | by lurker69 | 2007-02-16 15:00:47 |
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by DesertRat66 |
2007-02-16 15:49:32 |
Sorry, but I keep seeing the same arguments like they are talking points someone has published out there somewhere.
First mass slaughters have occurred at American Schools, the most infamous being the attack at Columbine by Dyllan Harris and Eric Kliebold. The scale was not nearly as bad as Beslan, true. But the intent for mass carnage was the same.
Secondly the terrorists at Beslan were Islamic Extremists. More than a few sources have confirmed this. Including "Terror at Beslan: A Russian Tragedy with Lessons for America's Schools" by John Giduck, "Beslan: Shattered Innocence" by Lynn Milburn Lansford, "The 2002 Dubrovka and 2004 Beslan Hostage Crises: A Critique of Russian Counter-Terrorism" by John B. Dunlop, Donald N. Jensen, and Andreas Umland, and "The Butchers of Beslan:
Could It Happen Here?" by by Bob Pilgrim published in the April 2005 issue of S.W.A.T. magazine.
You may not have spent much time in Islamic countries or know many people from the Arab world, I have. They do love their children, but they hate their enemies even more. Enough so that the extremists among them have no problem strapping bombs to their children and sending them to strike at the infidel/zionists. Based on my experiences they have a sense of Honor and Face that would rival WWII Japan.
The economics of guarding schools is addressed in the article: Should teachers be armed? At least two states (Utah and New Hampshire) now authorize concealed-carry permits in schools, according to Grossman, and the Federal Safe Schools Act allows for it. Faculty with military experience and a willingness to receive additional training could be a starting point.
"Even one or two armed teachers in a school can make a difference," Grossman said.
Doing what I suggest; volunteers would receive a stipend for such volunteer service. Drastically reducing your Five Billion Dollar price tag. Which should be further reduced because armed security guards are not paid THAT well.
Finally the tired old argument comes out that more guns == more chances the kids will be harmed by one of the "good guys." It's an interesting argument, but it doesn't hold water. First if what you say were actually true the case would be made now to disarm all LEOs. However, very few LEOs ever betray their position in such a manner.
I'll pre-emptively go after the argument of "but they could have an accident!" Gun ownership has been increasing dramatically in the U.S. but the rate of accidents is falling equally dramatically. For your assertion to be true the rate of accidents should be rising. The reason it isn't is because organizations, spearheaded by the NRA, are out there teaching more people how to safely handle and store firearms than ever before.
Also think about this; The argument for gun control is always that "if it saves one life..." the counter to that argument is that "If having armed people at schools to deal with domestic of foreign terrorists saves one life, will it not be worth it? You could ask the parents of the children murdered at Columbine High School.
Like Dave Grossman says:
First mission.
That's overcoming denial. And where schools and terrorist attacks are concerned, denial abounds...
"Denial is the enemy. It's a big, fluffy white blanket we pull up over our eyes to convince ourselves the bad men are never going to come. And while we pull that blanket up, bad guys come and kick us in the groin." |
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Well, I'm not totally against weapons | by lurker69 | 2007-02-16 17:10:34 |
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One thing above really stands out | by DesertRat66 | 2007-02-16 18:32:45 |
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~easy way to handle this | by robertltux | 2007-02-16 20:50:22 |
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