| The use of deus-ex-machina |
by SlyW |
2007-02-16 08:56:17 |
Do you consider it a copout or legitimate use of deus-ex-machina for a storyline like Harry Potter to invoke a favorable God willing to help vanquish excessively powerful bad guys?
No fire and brimstone, just a simple, stern, "No" uttered from a completely unremarkable passer-by which renders the bad guy powerless. The passer-by, naturally, fades into the background thus avoiding any kind of notice or fanfare.
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Oh yes. But then, | by Peace_man | 2007-02-16 08:58:01 |
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The hero and the antagonist must balance | by Miss L. Anyus | 2007-02-16 09:10:38 |
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Offers opportunity of character growth, though. | by CynicalRyan | 2007-02-16 09:16:24 |
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Except in this case, the protagonist(s) are the | by Miss L. Anyus | 2007-02-16 09:20:00 |
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They have the chance to be stronger from the | by CynicalRyan | 2007-02-16 09:40:31 |
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But since the reader/watcher is empathising with | by Miss L. Anyus | 2007-02-16 09:50:11 |
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Ahh, then I misunderstood your point. | by CynicalRyan | 2007-02-16 09:52:03 |
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I have often enjoyed the following climax | by SlyW | 2007-02-16 09:42:37 |
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Now *that* is a cop out. (n/t) | by CynicalRyan | 2007-02-16 09:43:45 |
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Resounding humbling maybe... | by SlyW | 2007-02-16 09:48:43 |
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No. If the story requires a d-e-m to resolve, the | by CynicalRyan | 2007-02-16 10:01:37 |
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Playing computer games in God Mode is little fun | by esbita | 2007-02-16 10:04:46 |
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Yes and no. | by CynicalRyan | 2007-02-16 10:07:40 |
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Yes, but a video game's less time commitment. (n/t) | by esbita | 2007-02-16 10:19:50 |
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Depends entirely on the cideo game. | by CynicalRyan | 2007-02-16 10:22:16 |
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s/cideo/video/; (n/t) | by CynicalRyan | 2007-02-16 10:24:38 |
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Yeah but cheat codes are more common | by esbita | 2007-02-16 10:24:46 |
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Well, they are more common in games with a | by CynicalRyan | 2007-02-16 10:32:00 |
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"No chance" stories... | by SlyW | 2007-02-16 12:36:22 |
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One, who should avoid dystopian stuff. | by CynicalRyan | 2007-02-16 14:18:14 |
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I like the distopian novels | by joecrouse | 2007-02-16 21:45:42 |
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like sword of truth? | by Nightwind | 2007-02-16 16:46:25 |
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Not always... | by jdelphiki | 2007-02-16 10:52:22 |
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With Harry Potter, specifically, | by hadji | 2007-02-16 09:14:49 |
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No, far better to just have a hidden element. | by EndlessWaves | 2007-02-16 09:32:01 |
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<Deleted> | <Deleted> | 2007-02-16 16:13:35 |
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Sorry mods, double post. (n/t) | by kf4oyt | 2007-02-16 15:31:23 |
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Moderated: double post (n/t) | by purplepineapple | 2007-02-16 16:13:45 |
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Agree, Ender's Game is a good example. | by kf4oyt | 2007-02-16 15:29:59 |
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Cop out. Only thing Worse I can think of is | by hieraco | 2007-02-16 09:33:45 |
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*cleans up... the ellipses* | by ihope127 | 2007-02-16 09:37:48 |
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Hey.... I thought that was... | by Dire_Lobo | 2007-02-16 09:41:16 |
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Well, I think it's mine, anyway... (n/t) | by ihope127 | 2007-02-16 09:44:22 |
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I have heard of... the 'talk like a pirate'... | by Peace_man | 2007-02-16 10:01:41 |
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No . . . not Captain . . . Kirk. Its talk . . . | by talon0720 | 2007-02-16 10:29:46 |
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He... has Nothing... on Shatner. (n/t) | by BloodyViking | 2007-02-16 11:57:38 |
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Dammit, Jim | by Miss L. Anyus | 2007-02-16 09:38:54 |
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my new supervisor is Named McCoy. | by joecrouse | 2007-02-16 21:40:42 |
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Wow. That was like, a *total* ellipse! (n/t) | by jdelphiki | 2007-02-16 10:45:00 |
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I won't say who it was, either, but... | by jdelphiki | 2007-02-16 10:50:27 |
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Not who I was thinking of | by hieraco | 2007-02-16 12:02:52 |
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consistant reader | by Nightwind | 2007-02-16 16:34:49 |
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I've always hated deus-ex-machina solutions | by SnappingTurtle | 2007-02-16 10:00:52 |
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Total copout. (n/t) | by BloodyViking | 2007-02-16 11:49:28 |
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Cop out. | by raptor_87 | 2007-02-16 13:25:33 |
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It's fine if the good guy looses. | by raptor_87 | 2007-02-16 13:28:46 |
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stephen king, dark tower (spoiler) | by Nightwind | 2007-02-16 16:09:23 |
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Thanks Now I dont want to read that series | by joecrouse | 2007-02-16 21:42:10 |