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Is science based in fact or belief? by subbywan2007-01-22 16:28:58
  Science is based on belief supported by fact. by hadji2007-01-22 16:35:24
    but could it be the reason it's faith-based by subbywan2007-01-22 16:36:58
      Can't ever get there. by vetitice2007-01-22 16:41:07
        Why can't we ever get there? by subbywan2007-01-22 16:44:37
          Because you can always say by vetitice2007-01-22 16:50:05
            Not yet, I agree by subbywan2007-01-22 16:53:07
              Not ever. by vetitice2007-01-22 16:59:59
                That's the catch. by subbywan2007-01-22 17:04:23
                  But we know exactly how we'd go about that. by Arachnid2007-01-22 17:06:15
                    Only because we've *done* it. by subbywan2007-01-22 17:10:03
                      We haven't landed probes on jupiter's moons by Arachnid 2007-01-22 17:16:25
but we know how to go about it.

In the case of the discovery of 'germs' (bacteria and virii) - it was not a case of some people having an abstract belief that there are these things called "bacteria" with no evidence to back it up. There's plenty of evidence that they exist - like the symptoms every time someone gets sick - and their discovery wasn't the result of some people who had decided ahead of time that they existed but had no idea how to find them, it was the result of developments in optics and the study of microbiology.

To re-ask the original question: How can you possibly prove the existence of something that can undetectably modify the results and your own perceptions such that you think you found nothing? The very concept is self-contradictory.
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                        Yes. But we don't know how to get them back by subbywan2007-01-22 17:29:46
                          Yes we do by Arachnid2007-01-22 17:36:46
                            Are we omnipotent? by subbywan2007-01-22 17:53:51
                              No, we're not. by Arachnid2007-01-22 17:57:05
                                Hence my point. by subbywan2007-01-22 17:58:36
                                So you can disprove small gods. Woohoo. by vetitice2007-01-22 18:04:10
                                How do we know Gods go beyond science? by subbywan2007-01-22 18:08:43
                                And now you're not talking about proving the by Arachnid2007-01-22 18:15:01
                                Who says they WEREN'T what we call God? by subbywan2007-01-22 18:34:33
                                Definitions again. by Arachnid2007-01-22 18:41:25
                                Neither. by subbywan2007-01-22 18:45:54
                                Glad I could help. by Arachnid2007-01-22 18:49:47
                                Go right ahead :) by subbywan2007-01-22 18:55:43
                                You can NEVER prove they don't! by vetitice2007-01-22 18:18:46
                                That's because you think I'm trying to actively by subbywan2007-01-22 18:38:32
                                No, it's useless to go searching... by Arachnid2007-01-22 18:43:02
                                The whole tangent thing again. by subbywan2007-01-22 18:48:44
                                Like I said, if it's not omnipotent, it's not god. by Arachnid2007-01-22 18:04:22
                                Why not? by subbywan2007-01-22 18:10:57
                                Then we have a disagreement in terminology by Arachnid2007-01-22 18:16:35
                                That's fair enough. by subbywan2007-01-22 18:42:13

 

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