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So did Pitr alter the leave report database? by SnappingTurtle2007-01-22 05:35:16
  Can you (still) accumulate SICK leave ? by SciSSorS 2007-01-22 06:13:42
I heard of people doing so, about ... twenty years ago. In *some* places, one could indeed "accumulate sick leave".
It looked like (I am probably simplifying, it's long ago and back then I was a student: I had no pay, so no paid "leave" for nothing)

Well, something like: be sick for a day: call the boss. (Boss puts mark on a chalkboard)
If you're back after this one day, and don't take another sick day within X days (say twoi weeks), boss wipes the mark.

If you 're sick for longer: boss sends a little yellow card, and "someone in an office" ups a counter for you. Yes, you should confirm the docter agreed with you on how many days you didn't show up. So say: doc prescribes "at home untill next thursday", and it is friday, the counter goes ... 4 days up (friday, monday, tuesday, wednesday, thursday)
This counter can go to "one working month" or 21 days before. If fac, it's counting DOWN from 21 (after one year in service), and from 6*21 or 126 after 6 years in service.
On the day the counter strikes 0, your pay gets cut for every NEXT sick day. I believe in those days, he still could get 60% of his wages.

So when he told me, about that, he added that his collaegues were often leaving the service "some year or more before their pension".
If their doctor agreed (or they could find one who signed the dotted line) they didn't suffer any loss of pay, for 12 months if they had been in that company for 12 years, or 25 months had been there for 25 years.

This system was "duplicated" from some system in a really wealthy company, and introduced in the public service too ... where unions have grown quite strong .... and where too many people -later- tried to abuse it. It became too easy t find a doc who would sign the "longer sick leave", but would officially "allow you to leave the home" or better: "send" you abroad for relaxing.

So I cannot remember the days any more when this kind of "scandalous abuse" was NOT mentioned by *some* politicians every now and then. So I suppose there 's still something left, but nobody still "counts" on it to continue untill we 'llhave our pension (still some decades to go, no? )

But it's a bit scary too, that first our grandparents had to fight for simple justice in working relations, that our parents still had to fight for "human relations" within the workforce, and that soon after working became a little more comfortable, the abuse of it all is already there.
I don't want slavery to come back, I don't want the 19th-century injustices to come back either (the things who inspired all of socialism). But why o why are some people so ****** selfish ?

Well, at least in this above system, the sick leave could not been "accumulated and paid", you HAD to be sick (or preteznd hard enough to have those doctors fill in the paperworks)
I cannot imagine any boss "paying a percentage" on the sick-leave at pensioning day. On unbalanced overtime: sure, he doesn't want to be caught on "fraud" with working hours.
[ Reply ]
    Govt jobs can usually accumulate sick time by Havoc2007-01-22 06:17:59
      We have caps on accrual of leave. by wwill2007-01-22 06:23:49
        That sounds like my dad... by MeepishCreature2007-01-22 08:06:59
    We do, but were a school district (Good Union) (n/t) by jmiles22007-01-22 06:57:39
    Community college employee here, we accrue it... by deadweasle2007-01-22 07:15:41
    We can accumulate sick time, but not vacation by Stuka2007-01-22 07:36:57
    Lots of types of leaves by SnappingTurtle2007-01-22 07:56:02

 

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