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In praise of evil 4WD SUVs by Havoc 2007-01-22 05:47:43
As I cruise past the 2wd hybrids and other 'green' cars that are in ditches, stuck against walls, and slowly sliding backwards down hills, I wave my evil gas-guzzling huge-carbon-signature hand at them as if in a parade.

It's all well and good to be ecologically aware, but not having a 4wd car in areas where snow and ice are inevitable is simply poor foresight.



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  In my area, the first vehicles to go into the by vdp2007-01-22 05:52:56
    LOL - yeah - in ice. Or when the drivers are by Havoc2007-01-22 05:55:40
    99% of safety is the driver, not the vehicle. by wwill2007-01-22 06:01:28
      agree. driver skill > vehicle (n/t) by rogol2007-01-22 06:06:37
        To an extent this is true... by loredous2007-01-22 09:57:16
      I agree by Jito4632007-01-22 06:12:59
    Well, counting the snow we got from Thursday eve.. by resc2007-01-22 06:05:37
      Better alternative to studded tires... by rogol2007-01-22 06:10:40
        "Like an angry octopus" !! Great visuals! by wwill2007-01-22 06:19:02
        Yeah, but I guess the prices are therafter... by resc2007-01-22 06:27:15
        I'd like to see some reference by afterburner2007-01-22 10:56:29
          Good Old fashioned Chains. (n/t) by joecrouse2007-01-22 16:18:03
    More SUV's in the ditches from Fort Collins to by tompaine2007-01-22 08:00:25
  Two extremes... by firehawk2007-01-22 06:02:00
    Well, in the interest of full-disclosure, by Havoc2007-01-22 06:09:40
      Well, in that case... by firehawk2007-01-22 06:25:39
        Heh - the estimates LIE. by Havoc2007-01-22 06:28:23
          How can they get away with that? by AndyA2007-01-22 09:35:26
            'Cause the govt lets them. by Havoc2007-01-22 10:02:07
              Hybrids should gain more on the city number. by AndyA2007-01-22 10:52:28
              On perfect acceleration/braking... by jdelphiki2007-01-22 12:15:54
            The way the tests are performed by joecrouse2007-01-22 16:20:42
        Just to be clear, we also have an SUV. by wwill2007-01-22 06:42:00
          If you bought it after 2004 then you may have a by classic_jon2007-01-22 07:51:26
      What do you mean 'isnt large'? by Astro-g2007-01-22 22:17:18
        Trust us. An Escape is SMALL for an by Silverfire2007-01-22 22:45:26
  As long as it is a proper 4WD Offroader by vectorz2007-01-22 06:33:28
    hehe, reminds me of... by resc2007-01-22 06:36:49
  In keeping with tradition I got both by DesertRat662007-01-22 06:46:40
    Considered that one, would have been 2nd choice. by wwill2007-01-22 06:48:40
  I drove 4 hours yesterday and saw ~12 cars off by nedludd2007-01-22 07:04:37
    From what I've heard, if you're going over ~30mph, by Arman X2007-01-22 07:44:35
  you don't need 4wd for ice and snow by Freakazoid2007-01-22 08:29:18
    Nope. by Havoc2007-01-22 09:24:23
      4WD may be safer than 2WD but by AndyA2007-01-22 09:45:51
        omething which can go around corners by Havoc2007-01-22 09:48:00
          you're driving an Escape! by gibuu2007-01-22 09:56:32
            LOL - but it IS 4wd... Intelligent 4wd by Havoc2007-01-22 10:03:09
              A ford and intelligent? Isn't that an oxymoron? by AndyA2007-01-22 10:10:38
                oo! Oooh! You! *sputter* *spit* *sputter* by Havoc2007-01-22 10:23:23
                  no you sound like a new chevy by joecrouse2007-01-22 16:24:58
              I looked at the escape some time ago by gibuu2007-01-22 10:26:02
                8" of clearance isn't enough? by Havoc2007-01-22 10:33:32
                  no 8 inches of clearance isnt enough by joecrouse2007-01-22 16:26:12
      dismissal my arse by Freakazoid2007-01-22 11:17:29
        Yes, dismissal by Havoc2007-01-22 11:33:57
          ...pre-emptive reply to your inevitable by Havoc2007-01-22 11:36:40
            it's called experience by Freakazoid2007-01-22 11:46:04
              Applying some basic logic... by AndyA2007-01-22 11:58:23
                Except... by jdelphiki2007-01-22 12:06:07
                  With modern 4wd - it is very well balanced by Havoc2007-01-22 12:07:39
                    True, but... by jdelphiki2007-01-22 12:36:10
                      Sounds like it was fun to drive! by Havoc2007-01-22 12:47:23
                  It may not be perfectly evenly balanced by AndyA2007-01-22 12:20:32
              Here's a starting point: by Havoc2007-01-22 12:24:01
      I've driven a 4WD and... by jdelphiki2007-01-22 11:56:13
        True by Havoc2007-01-22 12:06:20
          Heavy vehicles... by jdelphiki2007-01-22 12:30:39
            I must have had a different T&C by vetitice2007-01-22 13:10:56
              Yes, that might make a difference ;) (n/t) by jdelphiki2007-01-22 14:28:04
                Doesn't on a Kia Sedona by vetitice2007-01-22 15:41:28
  My FF is just fine in snow. (n/t) by Skippy-ish_Guy2007-01-22 22:46:20

 

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