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23 MB at <50 kB/s by kahuana2006-12-13 20:02:20
  But do have some consideration by webishop2006-12-13 21:39:21
    TOD used to be a 500 kB download. by kahuana 2006-12-13 21:46:00
Then some "gnome" decided they should implement in Java - to accomodate the Mac users.

I can just picture the day:

Gnome: "Hey! Java will run on both platforms!"
Manager: "That means we only need to produce one version!"

Now there are two files to download (a jar and an exe) totalling over 32 MB and Mac users *still* have to download a different version!
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