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So... it was effective after all... by fitzso2006-12-13 12:38:50
  Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics by DesertRat662006-12-13 12:55:03
    Isn't that what we always tell you when you by Peace_man2006-12-13 13:00:38
      You have one problem though by DesertRat662006-12-13 13:04:56
        That's Bull, DR by fitzso2006-12-13 13:14:48
          Really? by DesertRat662006-12-13 13:26:52
            *splutters diet coke on screen* by Havoc2006-12-13 13:30:13
              Who says I'm not? by DesertRat662006-12-13 13:43:53
                Civil right, perhaps. Human right, NO. by Havoc2006-12-13 13:59:00
                  Oh this is going to be fun by DesertRat662006-12-13 14:19:08
                    Not fun for you. Rebuttal, using your own words. by Havoc 2006-12-13 14:22:32
"Making guns less available does not reduce suicide but merely causes the person seeking death to use another means."

And this applies equally to self-defence. There is no HUMAN RIGHT to own a gun.

That is a civil and constitutional right, not a human right, and if you persist in this line of incredibly incorrect thinking, you will be doing MASSIVE damage to the cause of gun rights in general.

Only the most rabid gun-law-maker-upper would even hint that gun ownership was a human right. Please admit you are wrong on this one. It's a constitutional right, not a human right.

No amount of quoting or whatever can ever change that simple fact, but you are driving away gun rights activists with your silly claim.
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                      I was referring to suicide in that quote by DesertRat662006-12-13 14:33:25

 

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